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The same poll conducted 10/14 - 10/16 was a tie. This one 11/13 - 11/15 has Judge Moore down 8 points. The poll might be faulty, but this is not a good trend. I hope the press conference on wednesday, and the Al Franken situation,turn things around.
1 posted on 11/17/2017 4:42:27 AM PST by ThinkingBuddha
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A Democrat oversample which inaccurately quantifies the demographics and a small sample size sure looks like a push poll to me.


2 posted on 11/17/2017 4:45:57 AM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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Let me suggest a closer look at those 8% "undecided".

My guess is that if they are not already anti-Moore, they will eventually find their way to support him.

3 posted on 11/17/2017 4:47:21 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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Good catch. Hopefully this gets the attention it deserves.

Having said that, one thing I’ve learned over the years is that it’s important to pay attention to the trend with specific polls. For example, if Rasmussen, using the same methodology and the same sampling, shows a relative decrease or a relative increase, then that says something to me. But comparing one poll to another is, to me, really an irrelevancy.


5 posted on 11/17/2017 4:52:13 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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Democrat over sample.

Moore is going to bring it home, running away some 5 to 8 points over his opponent.

The smear campaign is actually working to elevate Moores standing. Call it the “Trump effect.” THe polls were very wrong about Donald Trumps winning the primary and the election itself.So it is with Moore.

The voters of Alabama are not as stupid as the MSM and Mitch McConnell think. They now a smear when they see one.

Steve Bannon has been doing good work!


6 posted on 11/17/2017 5:00:14 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama FAscism) http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Alabama has roughly a 60/30/10 Republican/Democrat/Independent electorate. These polls that are showing Jones beating Moore are massively oversampling democrats and independents. One poll this weekend had a 41R/40D/19I electorate. When questioned on how they got those numbers when the electorate is 60R/40D/10I, the pollsters essentially stated, “Uhhmm....Well, we just assumed that one third of Republican voters would be disillusioned and sit out the election while democrats and independents would come out at Presidential election year levels.”
9 posted on 11/17/2017 5:06:19 AM PST by apillar
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Fox News is just as bad as the others; they’re just less in-your-face about it.


10 posted on 11/17/2017 5:07:07 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Any poll that will not release its demographics to the public is unreliable and political. That is true no matter which side it is on. It’s too easy for them to tell you how many males, how many females, how many Republicans, how many Democrats, geographic location, etc, etc. We have no idea if all of these folks are Inner city respondents. We just don’t. And even the Republican Democrat break out in this poll article is an estimate based on percentages that are given. I went into the PDF file for this bowl and they gave nothing.


16 posted on 11/17/2017 5:25:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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It’s not a question of oversampling or undersampling. Sample weighting corrects for that. And 649 is a fair enough sample size. What matters is what kind of respondent is being polled. If it’s just a poll of adults that could be non-voters, illegal aliens, who knows who? Only a poll of likely voters will produce credible numbers. That kind of poll is expensive and most news organization won’t pay for it.


17 posted on 11/17/2017 5:25:44 AM PST by SeeSharp
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About the only thing that could explain this is that the number of likely voters among Republicans has dropped considerably. I don’t know if I would believe that. In any case it’s about three and a half weeks to election day. A lot can change in that long of a time period.


18 posted on 11/17/2017 5:29:02 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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The Murdochs put out the word to Fox to get on the attack Roy Moore bandwagon or more heads will roll at Fox.


20 posted on 11/17/2017 5:44:11 AM PST by Wuli
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FNC is as full of $hit as the rest of the MSM. And I don't trust ANY polls, regardless of who administers them.

My prediction is that Moore will win by +5 at least.
21 posted on 11/17/2017 5:44:47 AM PST by LIConFem
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You’ve gotta work real hard to oversample Democrats in Alabama.


24 posted on 11/17/2017 6:03:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Let me say that the yearbook sig is forgery/fake and needs to have ads run on it.


26 posted on 11/17/2017 6:04:41 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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No exactly a surprise. Even before the whole recent controversy, Fox News had Moore-Jones tied, when multiple other pollster had Moore up double digits. They’ve always given Moore his worst numbers among any of the independent polls.


27 posted on 11/17/2017 6:07:11 AM PST by Trump20162020
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As doon as I heard this new poll I thought it was false with more dems then R’s


28 posted on 11/17/2017 6:15:48 AM PST by stockpirate (The GOPe and socialist friends do not fear Americans)
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All polls have a purpose. Many are for propaganda.


29 posted on 11/17/2017 6:34:32 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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I believe Moore has the lead by 5% now. As the evidence of the fraudulent accusations are exposed over the next 7-10 days, Moore will wind up winning by at least 10%.

The evangelical Christian voters will be voting in huge numbers and once the fraud is totally exposed, Democrats will be demotivated. I don’t think even Democrats in Alabama believe these lies.


30 posted on 11/17/2017 6:40:42 AM PST by WASCWatch
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After Roy Moore wins he should say no to a fake Ethics panel.

Reject being called Freshman, a high school slander control term.

Roy should be be a bull in a China shop, with bags of popcorn.

SECOND BEST ELECTION EVA


32 posted on 11/17/2017 7:04:29 AM PST by TheNext
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Look at the internals of each pole before you comment. If you do this you will see that the poll which has more losing by 8 points has wildly oversampled Democrats compared to the poll which shows Moore winning by 6 points AND is in line with recent surveys of Party demographics.

Do you not realize that a poll can be made to give any results that the initiator of the pole wants it to give. If they only sample Democrats for instance, then the results will show that Ray Moore is losing by 100%. Have you learned nothing from the polling that was done during the general election?


33 posted on 11/17/2017 7:16:29 AM PST by billyboy15
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Polling companies have sold their soul to the left - nothing they say should be taken seriously.


34 posted on 11/17/2017 7:19:25 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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