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Democrat Oversample: Fox News Poll Claims Roy Moore Losing Despite Faulty Numbers
www.breitbart.com ^ | 11/16/2017 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 11/17/2017 4:42:27 AM PST by ThinkingBuddha

A Fox News Poll of 649 likely voters in Alabama released on Thursday and conducted between Monday and Wednesday of this week shows Democratic candidate Doug Jones with an eight point lead over Republican candidate Judge Roy Moore in the December 12 special election for the Alabama U.S. Senate seat once held by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, 50 percent to 42 percent, with a 3.5 percent margin of error. That poll stands in striking contrast to a Fox10/Strategy Research poll of 3,000 likely voters in Alabama released on Wednesday and conducted on Monday of this week that shows Moore with a six point lead over Jones, 49 percent to 43 percent, with a two percent margin of error.

The 14 point differential between the two polls conducted over the same three day period contributes to the great uncertainty surrounding the election thrown into chaos by unsubstantiated allegations of sexual harassment made against Judge Moore over the past week by several women.

The Real Clear Politics Average of Polls, which includes those two polls as well as three recent additional polls, shows the race is a virtual tie, with Moore having an eight tenths of one percent lead.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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The same poll conducted 10/14 - 10/16 was a tie. This one 11/13 - 11/15 has Judge Moore down 8 points. The poll might be faulty, but this is not a good trend. I hope the press conference on wednesday, and the Al Franken situation,turn things around.
1 posted on 11/17/2017 4:42:27 AM PST by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

A Democrat oversample which inaccurately quantifies the demographics and a small sample size sure looks like a push poll to me.


2 posted on 11/17/2017 4:45:57 AM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: ThinkingBuddha
Let me suggest a closer look at those 8% "undecided".

My guess is that if they are not already anti-Moore, they will eventually find their way to support him.

3 posted on 11/17/2017 4:47:21 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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The only way Roy Moore loses in Alabama is if Republicans vote for the Democrat!
4 posted on 11/17/2017 4:47:54 AM PST by KavMan
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Good catch. Hopefully this gets the attention it deserves.

Having said that, one thing I’ve learned over the years is that it’s important to pay attention to the trend with specific polls. For example, if Rasmussen, using the same methodology and the same sampling, shows a relative decrease or a relative increase, then that says something to me. But comparing one poll to another is, to me, really an irrelevancy.


5 posted on 11/17/2017 4:52:13 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Democrat over sample.

Moore is going to bring it home, running away some 5 to 8 points over his opponent.

The smear campaign is actually working to elevate Moores standing. Call it the “Trump effect.” THe polls were very wrong about Donald Trumps winning the primary and the election itself.So it is with Moore.

The voters of Alabama are not as stupid as the MSM and Mitch McConnell think. They now a smear when they see one.

Steve Bannon has been doing good work!


6 posted on 11/17/2017 5:00:14 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama FAscism) http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: markomalley

649 is a poor sample size and skewing to the Dems in a state like Alabama is intentional bid.


7 posted on 11/17/2017 5:00:53 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

Bias


8 posted on 11/17/2017 5:01:11 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: ThinkingBuddha
Alabama has roughly a 60/30/10 Republican/Democrat/Independent electorate. These polls that are showing Jones beating Moore are massively oversampling democrats and independents. One poll this weekend had a 41R/40D/19I electorate. When questioned on how they got those numbers when the electorate is 60R/40D/10I, the pollsters essentially stated, “Uhhmm....Well, we just assumed that one third of Republican voters would be disillusioned and sit out the election while democrats and independents would come out at Presidential election year levels.”
9 posted on 11/17/2017 5:06:19 AM PST by apillar
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Fox News is just as bad as the others; they’re just less in-your-face about it.


10 posted on 11/17/2017 5:07:07 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: littleharbour

A lot of folks used to think Fox News was “conservative” but the Trump trashing exposed them during the debate-primary season last year.

I think they did come around on Trump but that’s because the GOP Establishment machine lined up in the end to support his election as President.

Now they are in the Moore bashing business for their big business political machine masters.


11 posted on 11/17/2017 5:10:19 AM PST by Spiridon
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To: littleharbour

I sent Moore money since I saw the Republican Senate election committee went back on their agreement to pay for Moore’s campaign.

They are sabotaging a Republican simply because he thinks the leadership of the Senate has let the Conservatives and American people down.

Proof, why no Senate tax bill before Thanksgiving. And why
not make it retroactive to when President Trump took office last January.

McConnell the Mc Turdle should step down. Also, I hear they are working on GUN CONTROL WITH DEMS. WTF????


12 posted on 11/17/2017 5:10:45 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: littleharbour

Anything under 900 isn’t worth the time to read.

The devil is in the methodology. Which is why the enemedia makes the info such a PITA to find.


13 posted on 11/17/2017 5:13:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: apillar

So then, if you randomly strip out D and I responses to get those numbers down to the real ratio of R/D/I, the results would go back to 10pt. lead for Moore.


14 posted on 11/17/2017 5:23:24 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Spiridon

The important Fox evening news hours are pro-Trump. The crap programs that begin about noon ET, no so much. Decidedly anti-Trump: Cavuto, Smith, Perino. Ironically, for an entity that calls itself a news organization there is not a single hour-long program devoted to the day’s domestic and international “hard” news. For that, with all its biases, one can turn to BBC-America.


15 posted on 11/17/2017 5:24:16 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Any poll that will not release its demographics to the public is unreliable and political. That is true no matter which side it is on. It’s too easy for them to tell you how many males, how many females, how many Republicans, how many Democrats, geographic location, etc, etc. We have no idea if all of these folks are Inner city respondents. We just don’t. And even the Republican Democrat break out in this poll article is an estimate based on percentages that are given. I went into the PDF file for this bowl and they gave nothing.


16 posted on 11/17/2017 5:25:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

It’s not a question of oversampling or undersampling. Sample weighting corrects for that. And 649 is a fair enough sample size. What matters is what kind of respondent is being polled. If it’s just a poll of adults that could be non-voters, illegal aliens, who knows who? Only a poll of likely voters will produce credible numbers. That kind of poll is expensive and most news organization won’t pay for it.


17 posted on 11/17/2017 5:25:44 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: ThinkingBuddha

About the only thing that could explain this is that the number of likely voters among Republicans has dropped considerably. I don’t know if I would believe that. In any case it’s about three and a half weeks to election day. A lot can change in that long of a time period.


18 posted on 11/17/2017 5:29:02 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DarthVader

“A Democrat oversample which inaccurately quantifies the demographics and a small sample size sure looks like a push poll to me.”

Oversampling of Dems in Alabama? It’s a senate race and if anything the over sample should be Republicans.


19 posted on 11/17/2017 5:35:07 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.” - DJT)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

The Murdochs put out the word to Fox to get on the attack Roy Moore bandwagon or more heads will roll at Fox.


20 posted on 11/17/2017 5:44:11 AM PST by Wuli
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