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Police knew ‘madman’ had guns before killing rampage
AP News ^ | 11/16/2017 | By DON THOMPSON and JOCELYN GECKER

Posted on 11/16/2017 8:50:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

RANCHO TEHAMA RESERVE, Calif. (AP) — Police on Wednesday called the deadly shooting rampage in California a clear case of “a madman on the loose” while defending their decision not to arrest the man for previously violating a court order prohibiting him from having guns.

At a tense news conference, police conceded that neighbors had repeatedly complained about Kevin Neal firing hundreds of rounds from his house among other erratic and violent behavior.

Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston said authorities responded to neighbors’ calls several times, but the 44-year-old Neal wouldn’t open the door, so they left.

“He was not law enforcement friendly. He would not come to the door,” Johnston said. “You have to understand we can’t anticipate what people are going to do. We don’t have a crystal ball.”

On Tuesday, Neal shot and killed five people and wounded at least eight others at different locations around the rural community of Rancho Tehama Reserve. Police later shot and killed him.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kevinneal; ranchotehama
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"He was not law enforcement friendly."

So. The cops in Ranch Tehama are on par with the FBI. They had this guy on their radar. But did nothing.

Until it was too late.

1 posted on 11/16/2017 8:50:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

A “known wolf.”


2 posted on 11/16/2017 8:52:38 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston said authorities responded to neighbors’ calls several times, but the 44-year-old Neal wouldn’t open the door, so they left.

Well, if I ever get in big trouble in Tehama County I'll just never answer the door. Problem solved!

3 posted on 11/16/2017 8:54:12 AM PST by gdani (Everyone is a snowflake these days)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Big Media is providing cover for Sanctuary State cops by making sure to tell us he only killed adults.


4 posted on 11/16/2017 8:54:33 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Police on Wednesday called the deadly shooting rampage in California a clear case of “a madman on the loose” while defending their decision not to arrest the man for previously violating a court order prohibiting him from having guns. At a tense news conference, police conceded that neighbors had repeatedly complained about Kevin Neal firing hundreds of rounds from his house among other erratic and violent behavior.

Libs won't do a DAMNED thing about a guy like THIS, but they want to strip MY right to own a gun and they want to come confiscate MY guns.

5 posted on 11/16/2017 8:54:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Menehune56

Obvious answer-—— ban bump stocks and shoulder goes up thingys. That always works. Fidiots.


6 posted on 11/16/2017 8:54:52 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Fact is if they had gone with a search warrant to seize the guns, it would have ended in a siege and killing the nutter.

And everyone would be all over their ass for that too.

We can either lock the nutters up with all that entails including abuse and loss of civil liberties and increasing the size of the police state or we can accept that freedom includes risk and a duty to take responsibility for defending oneself from those risks.


7 posted on 11/16/2017 8:59:44 AM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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I half-way think they do this so the crime will take place and feed their gun grabbing agenda.... just say’n


8 posted on 11/16/2017 9:00:39 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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I half-way think they do this so the crime will take place and feed their gun grabbing agenda.... just say’n


9 posted on 11/16/2017 9:01:27 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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“defending their decision not to arrest the man for previously violating a court order prohibiting him from having guns...”

Oh yeah, we need MORE gun laws... so the cops can choose not to enforce -again.


10 posted on 11/16/2017 9:03:02 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Responsibility2nd
Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston said authorities responded to neighbors’ calls several times, but the 44-year-old Neal wouldn’t open the door, so they left.

Perps and nutjobs in this country are well aware of the wussification of law enforcement. Even if they'd made contact with him, the justice system would not have done anything. I'll bet it shocked the $hit out of those 3 UCLA guys when they got caught shoplifiting in China. They were probably used to the "catch and release" program that passes for criminal justice in America.

11 posted on 11/16/2017 9:04:40 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Lazamataz

Because YOU are a threat to their absolute power...this madman killer simply boosts their rhetoric, making him an asset.


12 posted on 11/16/2017 9:04:54 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Responsibility2nd

“When seconds count the police are only minutes away”.


13 posted on 11/16/2017 9:15:53 AM PST by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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And when they show, They will have chalk for your outline and some pads for notes for the report.


14 posted on 11/16/2017 9:19:08 AM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: Valpal1
We can either lock the nutters up with all that entails including abuse and loss of civil liberties and increasing the size of the police state or we can accept that freedom includes risk and a duty to take responsibility for defending oneself from those risks.

 

50-100 years ago, we routinely locked up (prison or mental wards) nuts like this. We had no problems with any loss of civil liberties or increasing the police state back then.

We clearly need to return to the values, customs, laws and traditions that we had 50-100 years ago.

15 posted on 11/16/2017 9:21:47 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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>“He was not law enforcement friendly. He would not come to the door,” Johnston said.

So what? They had a court order, and evidence that he was violating said order. And he was known to be violent towards his neighbors. So they just went home?

16 posted on 11/16/2017 9:26:44 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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“a madman on the loose” while defending their decision not to arrest the man for previously violating a court order prohibiting him from having guns. “......

Seems rather obvious, the police had a good reason to confiscate those guns BEFORE that “madman on the loose” went on his shooting spree. Guess what all a moot point now.


17 posted on 11/16/2017 9:43:15 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Responsibility2nd

You ever work in one of those state institutions? I did.

There was definitely abuse of every kind and palm greasing if the estate of the person being locked up was coveted by someone with power and money was not unknown.

Don’t romanticize the past. State-run institution have a bad reputation for a reason. Lack of accountability and vast sums of government money attract the worst elements of the human race.

Look at what crap goes on in the foster care system still today, do you really think the system for caring for the mentally ill and mentally incompetent (most of the institutionalized were abandoned retarded people, not mentally ill) who generally cannot effectively advocate and protect themselves was any better?


18 posted on 11/16/2017 9:51:29 AM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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>“He was not law enforcement friendly. He would not come to the door,” Johnston said.

So what? They had a court order, and evidence that he was violating said order. And he was known to be violent towards his neighbors. So they just went home?

 

Evidently there was no dog to shoot. Oh well. Off to the donut shop.

19 posted on 11/16/2017 9:58:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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He was on bond. That should have allowed them to enter.


20 posted on 11/16/2017 10:01:54 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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