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Still bruised from Clinton loss, left takes aim at Electoral College in court
Foxnews.com ^ | 10/19/17 | By Fred Lucas, Fox News

Posted on 10/19/2017 9:57:17 AM PDT by blueyon

A liberal-led push to overhaul the Electoral College could be moving from the op-ed pages to the courtroom, as a Harvard professor who flirted with a dark-horse Democratic presidential bid last year vows litigation to change the system.

Criticism of the Electoral College was resurgent in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss. Clinton recently said she wants the system "eliminated." The latest effort isn’t aimed at dismantling the structure entirely – but rather, the winner-take-all system used by 48 states in awarding electors, which ends up focusing presidential races on a handful of battlegrounds.

“With a winner-take-all, most of America is ignored,” professor Lawrence Lessig said in previewing his legal case – which, like any challenge to the Electoral College, faces a steep uphill climb.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; election; trump; voting
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To: blueyon

There is a 230 year old apparatus in place to change it.

Go for it.


21 posted on 10/19/2017 10:14:24 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: blueyon

If the American people allow the communists to pull this off, We the People, will be the BIG losers.


22 posted on 10/19/2017 10:15:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Has Sheila JACKSON LEE changed her name yet?)
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To: blueyon

Why doesn’t the Left just come out and say they want the Constitution burned and anyone who disagrees put up the against the wall and shot? And do they have the power to do so?


23 posted on 10/19/2017 10:16:32 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: Fai Mao
They need to read the Constitution.

So do most of the justices on SCOTUS


24 posted on 10/19/2017 10:19:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: hanamizu

‘I know I saw results from the 2000 election that said that counting EC votes by congressional district + 2 for the winner of the state’s total vote still had Bush winning.’

such a configuration would have tremendous impact on a state like Pennsylvania, or as they say, Alabama in between Philly and Pittsburg...18 CD’s 13 controlled by Pubs, 5 by Dems; instead of 20 EV’s for the Dems, they’d get 7 if they win the state...


25 posted on 10/19/2017 10:19:43 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: blueyon

In a nation built on INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, blocking a “tyranny of the majority” is a priority.


26 posted on 10/19/2017 10:22:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ssaftler

Washington DC should not have electoral votes, not being a state. The 23rd amendment gave them the number of EVs of the smallest state, but that is the opposite of what the Founders wanted. DC was supposed to be a capital district, not a state.


27 posted on 10/19/2017 10:22:52 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: blueyon

The only thing that will come out of this is the enrichment of scumbag lawyers.


28 posted on 10/19/2017 10:23:46 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Constitution?
Leftists don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution.


29 posted on 10/19/2017 10:25:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: blueyon

The states make their own rules how to determine the winner. It’s a state matter.


30 posted on 10/19/2017 10:28:36 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: blueyon
Lessig contends other proposals, such as the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, could take decades to fully implement. By contrast, a court ruling could force states to move to a proportional system by 2020.

No court ruling is possible. The text of the Constitution is supreme law. The states cannot be forced to choose one way only to select electors.

-PJ

31 posted on 10/19/2017 10:29:23 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: blueyon

She didn’t have a problem with any part of the system when her perv husband became president.


32 posted on 10/19/2017 10:32:36 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
That means that the EVs in California and New York might be split

Thank you for stating my thoughts.

33 posted on 10/19/2017 10:37:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (From now on refer to them as the Weinstein Democrats and the Weinstein media.)
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To: blueyon
Democrats are fools - they ARE the minority party and will be for decades... they should be thankful they have the electoral college - cause without it we would steamroll them...

“Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report used to be a big progressive.

He even had a show with The Young Turks! But now he's not a progressive. He has left the left. Why? Dave Rubin shares his story.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8

34 posted on 10/19/2017 10:37:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ("NFL: Now Far Left" - - freeper Lazamataz)
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To: blueyon
“With a winner-take-all, most of America is ignored,” professor Lawrence Lessig said in previewing his legal case – which, like any challenge to the Electoral College, faces a steep uphill climb.

Lessig, though, argues the system violates the 14th Amendment’s one-man-one-vote principle.

The flaw in this "professor's" argument is that electing the President is done by the states, not by the people.

-PJ

35 posted on 10/19/2017 10:38:03 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: blueyon

They want popular vote without voter I.D.


36 posted on 10/19/2017 10:41:46 AM PDT by just me (God bless President Trump and the USA)
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To: DuncanWaring
"Math Against Tyranny"
Discover Magazine

What an outstanding article. I've bookmarked it on my desktop computer and sent a link to my laptop for later bookmarking.

Reminded me of Hari Seldon's Psychohistory theories
(Isaac Asimov - Foundation series)

37 posted on 10/19/2017 10:45:55 AM PDT by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

The objective is to have the states vote their delegates in relation to the popular vote within that state rather than all of the delegates going to the overall winner of the state. It would have the states divide the delegates proportionately rather than en-bloc.
They recognize that changing the constitution to effect the popular vote is hard so they hope to have the individual states move towards this goal by splitting the delegates in a manner that more closely follows the popular vote count.


38 posted on 10/19/2017 10:46:57 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: blueyon

A smart candidate campaigns to achieve the most electoral votes. Stupid and/or arrogant ones.....ones who are preordained by sheer godlike power, like her heinous, Hitlery, don’t find that necessary....and frankly, beneath them.


39 posted on 10/19/2017 10:47:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: outofsalt

Any state that wants to can do so. It is entirely up to the state legislatures how to appoint their electors and even whether to have any sort of election to do it.


40 posted on 10/19/2017 10:48:56 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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