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The Guardian: Background Check Laws Fail in CO, WA Because Citizens Will Not Comply
breitbart.com ^ | 10/12/2017 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/13/2017 8:53:01 AM PDT by rktman

On October 13 the Guardian reported that background check laws in Colorado and Washington state have proven a failure because citizens simply will not comply with them.

This means that after millions upon millions spent, political offices lost, and promises of a Utopian world with less gun crime made, the checks have been a bust.

According to The Guardian, the failure of these background check laws was discovered via research by Injury Prevention and it “is a setback for a growing gun control movement that has centered its national strategy on precisely the kind of state laws passed in Colorado and Washington.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; illegal
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To: rktman

Imagine a gun registry law is passed nationally.

3 years later they take a tally and find only 40 million guns have been registered.

Only 10%?
Then what?

The Libs won’t advertise their failure!

BUT, The Pro-2A folks would be able to use the fact to laugh in the face of the tyrants and demand the useless law be banished.


41 posted on 10/13/2017 10:22:27 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: gnarledmaw

Never said I played along.


42 posted on 10/13/2017 10:22:45 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: catnipman

Any idea what became of David Kopels lawsuits against these two laws?


43 posted on 10/13/2017 10:29:42 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: G Larry
LOL! During the 2010 census I/we got the long form but only did the bare minimum. That of course garnered a visit from some poor gal from the census bureau. She wasn't happy when she finally left the driveway. Took a while for her to realize she was wasting her time. 👹
44 posted on 10/13/2017 10:29:53 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Those who would hide their guns from government goons come to confiscate them, don’t understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.


45 posted on 10/13/2017 10:39:09 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

“If so, I have to start promoting the term “The Pinheads in Phoenix”. “


“Dummies in Denver” has the sound of two Ds. “Pinheads in Phoenix does not. I suggest you revise “Pinheads” to some word with the “F” sound...in fact, keep the “...heads” part. You could even make it more memorable by using “Ph” instead of the proper “F” in a word. Use your imagination.


46 posted on 10/13/2017 10:46:40 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Windflier

“It’s not possible to confiscate 400 million guns from 150 million gun owners. Can’t be done, even if you tasked the entire U.S. military with the job.”


Well, if someone did so task the military, that portion which obeyed would find out that Afghanistan and Iraq were calm and peaceful places in comparison to the Hell-On-Earth that the US would become - for them, and for their masters.

However, in case there is any doubt among those on either side of this debate, I take is as a holy duty to increase that number as much as I can, to encourage others to do the same (and to BLOAT, and practice), and to especially do so with non-recorded purchases and self-manufacture of sport-utility rifles (i.e. buying and drilling/routing out 80% receivers).


47 posted on 10/13/2017 10:50:27 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: OldMissileer; rktman; InABunkerUnderSF

“So, I suppose I have to start “Clowns in Carson” then.”

“I’m gonna use “Retards in Richmond.” “


Heh, I’ve got Austin...I don’t have to use a potentially offensive or un-PC word to describe them, I can (and will) use a body part!


48 posted on 10/13/2017 10:52:33 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Guns are much easier to hide.”


Yes, because they are smaller.

Plus, you can break them into pieces, bury them, or hide them in a closed container under water. Go try any of those with a person.

Besides, people require SOME interactions with others - interactions that can be tracked. Cashing checks, buying stuff online, going to the doctor or ER, buying a car, etc. I have seen firearms that don’t have such interactions for DECADES (which is a damned shame, of course, but it happens - and, more importantly for this purpose - it CAN happen).


49 posted on 10/13/2017 10:56:10 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

“And don’t forget the dickheads in Dallas.”


Uh, Austin is the crapitol of Texas. We already have a nickname for most of those folks.


50 posted on 10/13/2017 10:57:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rktman

“LOL! During the 2010 census I/we got the long form but only did the bare minimum. That of course garnered a visit from some poor gal from the census bureau. She wasn’t happy when she finally left the driveway. Took a while for her to realize she was wasting her time. “


So, you think that YOU gave trouble to a census worker...

...I research my family history. Once I got a bunch of disks with a family tree program that included the 1870 census. I don’t remember where this guy was from, but oddly enough his name was “Fuck You.”

Must be related to George Carlin’s “Fuck of the MOUNTains.” [If you’re not familiar, listen to Carlin’s routine on the 7 words that you can never, ever use on TV - at least when he did the routine.]


51 posted on 10/13/2017 11:01:12 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Windflier

“Those who would hide their guns from government goons come to confiscate them, don’t understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.”


It is what’s known as “reserves.”

You know, in case 20 guys in ninja outfits with automatic weapons and a rocket launcher show up at your door at 0h Dark Thirty, and say, “Hey, there, Mr. Windflier, you neglected to turn in the 8 guns on this here list. Would you kindly get them and give them to us, buttstocks first? Because if you don’t, start, in about the next 15 seconds, we’re going to kill you, your family and your dog, and then get them anyway.” Unless you are a damned fool, you’ll comply...and a week or two later, when you are reasonably sure that they aren’t surveilling you any more, you’ll go to some friend’s or relative’s home, or to some deserted place, and retrieve one or more other guns (with appropriate ammo) that you hid away, just in case...and then you’ll be GLAD that you did so, too.


52 posted on 10/13/2017 11:06:34 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: moehoward

I agree.
It was a crime BEFORE the background check law took effect to KNOWINGLY sell a gun to a person who failed the Washington standards, which are pretty much equal to the Fed standards.


53 posted on 10/13/2017 11:09:47 AM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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To: Ancesthntr
Let me just say this. Chuck Norris knows I live where I do. He doesn't come to my town. Just sayin'. 😹🍿🍻🚬
54 posted on 10/13/2017 11:12:54 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Ancesthntr

“The Pinheads in Phoenix”

I’m in a quandary. Nothing rhymes with Olympia. Can you help me out?


55 posted on 10/13/2017 11:15:40 AM PDT by beelzepug (H,MN! WIAM? DMS!)
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To: MileHi

“Any idea what became of David Kopels lawsuits against these two laws?”

thrown out mostly on a “no standing” issue i think:

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/03/22/appeals-court-says-colorado-sheriffs-cant-sue-governor-over-gun-laws/


56 posted on 10/13/2017 11:19:03 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: beelzepug

Doesn’t have to rhyme.

Onerous oligarchs of Olympia.


57 posted on 10/13/2017 11:27:18 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: catnipman

I hate to click the compost but I will.

Thanks


58 posted on 10/13/2017 11:28:48 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: catnipman

From the article”

““I’m proud of the team in my office that fulfilled our legal role of defending state laws,” Colorado Attorney General Cynthia Coffman said in a statement.”

That is disappointing. Her husband ain’t nothing to write hoe about either.


59 posted on 10/13/2017 11:34:38 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: CurlyDave
Suppose you sell a gun to a trusted friend -- no problem, right? Well, suppose someone steals it from him and shoots the victim in a holdup. You can bet your bottom dollar that they will have plenty of time to trace that gun back to you and there will be dire consequences...

I have yet to see 'dire consequences' from a sale and a subsequent theft.

60 posted on 10/13/2017 11:47:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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