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The Guardian: Background Check Laws Fail in CO, WA Because Citizens Will Not Comply
breitbart.com ^ | 10/12/2017 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/13/2017 8:53:01 AM PDT by rktman

On October 13 the Guardian reported that background check laws in Colorado and Washington state have proven a failure because citizens simply will not comply with them.

This means that after millions upon millions spent, political offices lost, and promises of a Utopian world with less gun crime made, the checks have been a bust.

According to The Guardian, the failure of these background check laws was discovered via research by Injury Prevention and it “is a setback for a growing gun control movement that has centered its national strategy on precisely the kind of state laws passed in Colorado and Washington.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; illegal
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But, but, but.................shannon promised that this would end all gun crimes and end all suicides and negligent discharges and.............. Somebody ought to pass a law..........Oh. As I recall, didn't the majority of the LEOs in WA say they didn't have the resources to enforce this BS anyway. And, they won't devote much, if any, time to enforcement?
1 posted on 10/13/2017 8:53:01 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

The Guardian is to Americans what Der Sturmer was to Jews.


2 posted on 10/13/2017 8:55:36 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rktman

When you have stupid legislatures like Diana Regret that think when a magazine is empty it is of no other use the laws are also useless. 55 Sheriffs of Colorado filed lawsuits against Colorado because of unenforceable laws to little avail. Ignorance is bliss in the Dome of Dummies in Denver.


3 posted on 10/13/2017 8:59:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Well whenever I need expert advice about the 2nd amendment or firearms, I turn to the fair and balanced Guardian.. ;-)


4 posted on 10/13/2017 9:00:07 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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It IS BS. Before my unfortunate boating accident, I would frequent the classifieds of a few gun forums. Whenever someone would offer a gun for sell they were clear ID was mandatory and a CCL preferable. The community is very effective at self-policing. No one wants one of their guns going to the wrong type of character.


5 posted on 10/13/2017 9:00:18 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: rktman

Don’t we all!


6 posted on 10/13/2017 9:01:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

The Guardian (formerly Manchester Guardian) is a very-left-wing British paper that has little readership or influence in the US


7 posted on 10/13/2017 9:02:14 AM PDT by expat2
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To: rktman

“Universal background checks” is a euphemism for gun registration.
If every transfer is recorded, they know where to go for confiscation.
They thought we were stupid enough to go along with it.

WE WILL NOT COMPLY!

(NY and CT also found that out)


8 posted on 10/13/2017 9:03:29 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rktman

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14322-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law

Gun grabbers tell Americans they must do something or cannot do something, and we refuse.
Where government fears the people, you have liberty.


9 posted on 10/13/2017 9:03:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: mountainlion

For now, the Nevada initiative is toast because the brilliant gun control assclowns screwed up the wording as to how to actually do the checks. It was a contradiction as to who would do it and it went unresolved during the last session so no action until next time. I’m sure the rats will come out swinging. And the populace will be non-compliant. And LEO won’t actively enforce it. Thus, a waste of tax dollars and time. Again. We know the bad guys are quivering in their nikes.


10 posted on 10/13/2017 9:04:19 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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...As I recall, didn't the majority of the LEOs in WA say they didn't have the resources to enforce this BS anyway. And, they won't devote much, if any, time to enforcement?...

The problem here is that they don't have much time to devote to enforcement in general, but in specific cases they sure do.

Suppose you sell a gun to a trusted friend -- no problem, right? Well, suppose someone steals it from him and shoots the victim in a holdup. You can bet your bottom dollar that they will have plenty of time to trace that gun back to you and there will be dire consequences...

11 posted on 10/13/2017 9:04:41 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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You are the second person from CO that I know of who has referred to the state government as "The Dummies in Denver". The other being a friend in Greeley. Is this a term that is in common use?

If so, I have to start promoting the term "The Pinheads in Phoenix".

12 posted on 10/13/2017 9:10:30 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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To: expat2

Not if you go by the comments section.


13 posted on 10/13/2017 9:10:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
A talk radio guy in Loveland often refers to the “dome of dummies” relating to most legislation.
14 posted on 10/13/2017 9:17:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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DUMMIES IN DENVER i like it. never heard it. between the state ‘tards and the anti-cop mayor and city council in Denver it fits. going to use it from now on.


15 posted on 10/13/2017 9:17:24 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: rktman

true enough for Colorado:

1. Of the 64 counties in Colorado, something like 53 of the county Sheriffs announced that they were not going to enforce local registration or the magazine law because they are unenforceable.

2. And they have a point.The laws are so poorly written that merely handing a neighbor one of your firearms is a violation, and because existing magazines were grandfathered, and because magazines have no serial numbers it’s impossible to tell a “grandfathered” magazine from a “non-grandfathered” magazine.

3. To the best of my knowledge, no one in Colorado has ever been prosecuted for violation of either law. Most likely the laws would be struck down as unconstitutionally vague if a test case was every brought.

(The one interesting consequence of these laws is that they inadvertently made gun “buybacks” essentially impossible to conduct legally, something yours truly pointed out chapter and verse in a legal brief i published in a local newspaper comment section the first time a local Sheriff tried to facilitate one of these gun “buybacks”. Sheriff then had to publicly back off a few days later in the same newspaper, and there has never been another attempted gun “buyback” in Colorado since then.)


16 posted on 10/13/2017 9:20:04 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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So, I suppose I have to start "Clowns in Carson" then. 🤔👹
17 posted on 10/13/2017 9:21:15 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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It’s almost as if criminals don’t obey the law all the time.


18 posted on 10/13/2017 9:27:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Stone cold sober, like Mrs. Don-o.)
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(The one interesting consequence of these laws is that they inadvertently made gun “buybacks” essentially impossible to conduct legally, something yours truly pointed out chapter and verse in a legal brief i published in a local newspaper comment section the first time a local Sheriff tried to facilitate one of these gun “buybacks”. Sheriff then had to publicly back off a few days later in the same newspaper, and there has never been another attempted gun “buyback” in Colorado since then.)
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+1


19 posted on 10/13/2017 9:29:00 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rktman

That is so not fair.

You guys have some really cool nicknames for your legislature, but what can we say about the Texas legislature in Austin???

A******* in Austin? Sounds nice but not too conversation friendly.


20 posted on 10/13/2017 9:30:51 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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