Posted on 10/11/2017 8:33:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Lt. Col. Robert F. McTague, U.S. Army (Ret.) Best Defense office of Second Civil War affairs
If we have a second Civil War, trying to understand what is happening will feel more like Ukraine in 2014 than Virginia in 1861.
Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery, but that was in the context of social and economic models in the South that were ripe for extinction. The Souths reaction was to launch a last-ditch effort to maintain and prop up its way of life at all costs, so it was visceral and violent.
Likewise, Trumps election was an angry, defiant death throe, a angry cry against demographic and economic changes that are in fact irreversible. So, if you are a New Right strategist today call them the Great Disruptors the question is, how do you confront those inevitabilities?
First, you continue at the low level, with some really advanced, effective gerrymandering, as in Wisconsin. You continue to enflame working class whites, who have been ignored by the Democrats for decades. You also try to limit immigration and free trade as much as possible.
Even so, even as they do this, the New Rights Disruptors know they can slow down changes to the nation, but they cant stop them. So whats the next step? You up the ante. You make it holy war. You persuade your base that there is no other way but violence. I believe many, perhaps most, of the members of Trumps base will sign up for that.
Why? Because they will believe they are on the side of good, of right, of Americanism.
Many people in the South and heartland in general often think of themselves as patriotic, loyal Americans, more so than liberals, Yankees, elites and people from the North and urban areas.....
(Excerpt) Read more at foreignpolicy.com ...
This left-wing globalist traitor to America and the Constitution and is probably on Soros’ payroll. I wonder if he is friends on Facebook with the commie West Point grad, Spenser Rapone?
Foreign Policy mag is a pro-globalist propaganda rag.
This is why they are cranking the climate hysteria up to 11. They want their followers to believe the choice is go to war with us, or face the end of human existence.
“A left wing troll (even though a retired LTC) dreams of a civil war to send the political right to extinction.”
Not the first military subversive nor the last.. New one,a communist, just graduated from West Point.
” .. if the antifa starts their war it will last about 15 minutes.”
“We’ll be home before first frost!” Famous last words uttered before our last civil war and WWI, or (Brits) the Great War.
“Robert F. McTague retired in 2016 as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Army. He did two tours in Iraq, and also served in Kuwait, Qatar, Korea, Croatia, Romania, and Turkey. He completed two NATO tours as well. He now makes his home in Bucharest, Romania.”
I’m glad that this POS left America.
“Slavery wasnt the only issue, but it was the driving one.”
Not. Only on the part of wild eyed abolitionists of the time like John Brown.That type would be equivalent of today’s antifa and radical left democrats.
The commies will be pulling off something soon in celebration of the 100 anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution. Gear up.
I agree we are at an ideological division here in the United States. Trump doesn't represent a ‘dying’ group of individuals, but a often silent political majority. The evidence is all around the media, and they ignore the reality that America is actually conservative. Further, the howls from the left for gun ‘control’ are being seen as a prelude from socialists to then use the typical pattern of ‘regulate’ then ‘confiscate’ then ‘genocide’ people whom do not agree with them. Left wing nuts, (Democratic Socialists, Communist Socialist) have used this pattern to seize and commit mass murder over the last century (Hitler, Stalin, Mao). Which is why I frequently say “Guns don't kill people, Socialists with Guns kill people.”
I don't want a Civil War, 6% of the US population died in the last one with primitive weapons. The inability to force socialism, progressivism, and ultimately an elite socialist state, will lead to further left wing nut frustration and violence. They are stacking failures, usually funded or supported by George Soros, and the ‘liberals/socialists/left wing nuts’ are now considering violence. This is a ‘trial balloon’ for left wing nuts to accept that violence will be needed to strong arm the ‘violent and racist right’.
We are entering dark times, brought on not by the election of Donald Trump, but by a previous POTUS who felt no obligation to rule of law or the Constitution. Washington DC has become power and money drunk, and the three letter acronyms have become corrupt and dangerous. This is where the real conflict lies, not on demographics, but on a belief that ‘elite’ forces can impose their will upon a free people.
Longstreet’s comment that we should have freed the slaves and then fired on Ft. Sumter demonstrates that the South’s main goal was not slavery, but self determination.
You are using a movie quote from the movie Gettysburg to justify your position??? Something Longstreet never said.
If they had freed the slaves before firing on Fort Sumter, Britain would have almost certainly joined their side, changing the whole equation.
The author is an idiot. His view of history stops at slavery and knows nothing of taxation, congressional maleficence by northern States, or the many other fights between the north and south that were happening at the time that had absolutely nothing to do with slavery.
His credibility is that of a liberal; an ignorant idiot.
The South certainly was aggressive in defending the institution of slavery in the lead up to war. Bleeding Kansas...is a prime example. The whole basis of the confederacy and secession was the institution of slavery. No Slavery No civil war.....period.
“the New Rights Disruptors know they can slow down changes to the nation, but they cant stop them”
Laughable. As if open borders and failure to enforce basic immigration law are some kind of inexorable forces of nature. These things can and will be reversed.
“Foreign Policy magazine is a place where these elites have talked to one another, signaling their intentions, for decades.”
Well put.
No more aggressive than the north.
Massachusetts had slaves from the early 1600's. The state never passed any legislation outlawing slavery. In fact, they discouraged it. People now claim that slavery was ended in Massachusetts by state supreme court. That really didn't end slavery there. People who wanted to free their slaves had to post a bond to ensure that the freed slaves didn't become a burden on the community. Families called them servants. Just changed their names.
“Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery . . .”
That is an interesting comment.
I have to ask: If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?
That is BS & a lie out of the pit of hell.
According to purveyors of this crap might as well throw up your hands and kiss your a** goodbye.
“The whole basis of the confederacy and secession was the institution of slavery. No Slavery No civil war.....period.”
That is an interesting comment.
If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?
According to Lincoln, it was not:
“I have not designs on slavery....
Likewise, W T Sherman had no qualms.
How can these people continue a this myth that even their own leadership disavowed?
IT’S ALWAYS ABOUT SLAVERY, in one guise or another. Free people have to struggle endlessly to take and maintain their liberty (preferably through Constitutional, non-violent means) or become dependent subjects. Seems like there is a lot more we can do before a civil war is justified.
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