Posted on 10/10/2017 2:03:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
We actually discussed this proposal when it first arose in California a while back, but much of the general consensus seemed to be that it wouldn’t actually happen so there was no sense spinning our wheels over it. This issue at hand was a bill which would criminalize the use of the “wrong pronoun” when speaking with transgender persons. It was only supposed to apply to health care workers in nursing homes and other specific care facilities, but opponents worried that it could readily be expanded to every aspect of life. As I said… not gonna happen, right?
Well, never underestimate the crazy factor in California because it’s been signed into law. And violators could be looking at a steep fine or even a year in the county lockup. (Fox News)
California health care workers who willfully and repeatedly decline to use a senior transgender patient’s preferred name or pronouns could face punishments ranging from a fine to jail time under a newly signed law.
California Gov. Jerry Brown signed the legislation last week. The sponsor, Democratic state Sen. Scott Wiener, has argued adamantly that nobody is going to be criminally prosecuted for using the wrong pronoun.
Its just more scare tactics by people who oppose all LGBT civil rights and protections, he said in a statement last month.
But the language seemingly allows for the possibility, however remote.
The response from the bill’s sponsor is especially telling. When someone dared to point out that his legislation sounds like something straight out of Animal Farm, he responded by insisting that nobody was going to be prosecuted. I see. So you went to the trouble of drawing up a bill, pushing it through the legislature and convincing the Governor to sign it, but you’re not to have it enforced? Because that’s sure what it sounds like you’re saying (which may be even more Loony Tunes than the original bill itself). And it doesn’t matter whether someone is locked up or “only” has to pay a fine equal to two week’s take home pay for the median American worker. The point is, you have criminalized speech.
This is yet another case where we desperately need someone to violate this law and be charged just so it can make its way through the appeals process. Making the claim that this is somehow constitutional should be a massive challenge. Then again, these days I’m less and less confident about wishing for such things. You can find a judge to rule your way on most any SJW concept in the world if you shop around enough.
Even if we are to assume that addressing someone using a pronoun which refers to their actual gender (rather than their personal preference) is somehow “rude,” we still don’t throw people in jail for rudeness or unpopular opinions. Or at least we didn’t used to when the First Amendment meant something. But as we’ve seen in too many of California’s college campuses, the First Amendment is now not only old fashioned and out of style, but actually met with hostility. Apparently that trend has worked its way up from the universities to the state legislature and the Governor’s mansion as well.
What happened to free speech/free expression?
I can burn an American flag and everything is fine, but if I piss off some tranny I’m going to jail?
What a country...
’Its just more scare tactics by people who oppose all LGBT civil rights and protections,’ [Scott Wiener] said in a statement last month.”
He’s more right that we give him credit for. The law is completely unenforceable because laws are composed of elements, and elements of the fantasy contingent aren’t at all determinable.
Am I in violation if I refer to Gov Jerri as “Missy?” or is that her preferred appellation?
That dump Cali can’t secede fast enough.
I think this law is going to be used against heterosexual people who decline to go out on a date with someone of the same sex.
Last year we banned cow farts. I hope thew state is enforcing that strictly.
With success in that setting they will broaden their scope to include all hospitals and then all places of business.
Someone needs to shut this thing down ASAP.
I’d think this would be an especially dangerous law in the health care field. What if some health care worker is forced to refer to a biological male as “she” and a doctor mistakenly prescribes a medication, treatment or surgery that is designed only for women and not for men?
Are they going to be protected from malpractice suits based on such mistakes caused by this law?
We may quickly go from “Bake the damn cake!” to “Blow the damn tranny!” *shivers*
I am scared enough to stay out of California.
where are the courts/judges on this one ,LOL ,forget it
KA, NY and MA are tumors on this country.
It will never hold up in court.
would i be in trouble if I just called these TG people batsheet crazy insane moonbats from Hell?
As long as you don’t use pronouns you should be ok. g
Jim Jones’ pal Governor Cokie
Kalifornia has officially gone off the rails.........................
Really? Then why put that in the law?
If you can control the conversation, you can control thoughts and culture.
This is a classic left wing tactic. Think about all the other issues where they’ve controlled the words we were “allowed” to use.
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