Posted on 10/08/2017 7:58:52 AM PDT by rktman
I imagine that this will light up the comments section, but someone needs to write it: the conspiracy theories cropping up over the Las Vegas shooting are as noisome as mushrooms on a dunghill after a spring rain. In discussing some of the more outlandish and offensive ones, I will not document them lest I drive more traffic to the authors' websites.
Law enforcement is withholding information from us.
Of course it is. It always does. That's called good practice before police have interviewed all who might have information – scarcely a revelation.
Do I wish they would release all the data after the investigation is complete? Yes. But that has never been standard practice in this country, nor in any other. Conspiracy theorists would do well to remember Occam's Razor.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
As a Judeo Christian, we are presented with a grand conspiracy: that of actual evil in the world with a plan to attack Christ and His Church.
Jesus Himself was subjected to the conspiracy of Hell against Him in the forty days in the desert.
And as Christians are not to be "ignorant of the devil's wiles", in the same manner we are to be "Bereans" or skeptics who "test all things" including BS MSM narratives and those who deliver the MSM narrative dung.
"Wise as serpents, but meek as doves..."
You are exactly right. Accusations of "conspiracy theorist" have become the equivalent of accusations of "racist" -- broadening a term (in this case "conspiracy theory") to such an extent as to become essentially meaningless. But the accusation carries with it the connotation of the more accurate, and more limited, definition.
Speculation on motive, is not "conspiracy theory". It is "speculation". Speculation on additional shooters is not "conspiracy theory". It is "speculation". In fact, very little of what goes under the accusatory heading of "conspiracy theory" is in any way tied to an actual "conspiracy", and is certainly in no way a "theory". Speculation is good, valuable, and a vital way in which ordinary people provide a balance to the immense powers inherent in law enforcement. Even when speculation is bizarre, lacking evidence, and implausible, it still serves a role (a very vital role).
However, from my limited research, I do believe President John Quincy Adams and Reverend Chas Finney DID call it conspiracy, albeit a century before.
Beware anyone who shuts down normal discourse and analysis of all theories...
Pearl Harbor vets questioned whether or not FDR allowed Pearl to happen... there was no thought of ridiculing them by calling them conspiracy theorists... The people to be aware of are the ones pointing fingers and calling people conspiracy theorists instead of allowing people to question everything in this era of fake news and Uniparty MSM collusion. Andrew Breitbart was right. Paid crisis actors and paid protestors make up most of the MSM narrative.
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EXCELLENT excellent excellent post, thanks. Many need to be reminded of what you have written.
When I read over-the-top efforts to smear/shut down reasonable analysis, I am reminded that the term “conspiracy theory” is a CIA-created term, used to validate false explanations by discrediting true explanations.”
The lobbies will have them.
I am sure the lobbies do have cameras.
How would cameras in a lobby prove that no other persons exited Paddock’s rooms?
And it may have been possible via a stairwell to escape UP to the Four Seasons, which starts on the 35th floor of the same building.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter"
http://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/25-2.htm
Dick Bachert wrote:
"Just had the following email exchange with the author.
(Didn't take time to properly HTM code the links.If interested, copy and paste them.)
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Dick Bachert wrote:
Let me see if I got the message from your American Thinker essay: American men who seek and attain power are inherently incapable of the venal, brutish, self-serving megalomaniacal behavior that fills the history books. And, of course, the Deep State is a figment of our imagination and the leftists who are seeking to disarm us want only the best for us. (Search Larry Grathwohl at YouTube for more on that one!)
I feel SOOO much better now! Thank you.
Hate to spoil an otherwise pleasant Arizona day, but the 20 minute video (at the link below) just came through here and it MAY help you understand why the pace of these horrific events -- like Las Vegas -- is increasing.
Venal, grasping and brutal men (and a few women) have sought and attained power over other, more peaceful men for eons: The Borgias, Henry VIII, Ivan the Terrible, Robespierre, Stalin, Hitler, the North Korean Kims -- it's a long list.
At some point, all such men understand that to attain TOTAL control, they MUST get their hands on the levers of GOVERNMENT POWER in whatever system they find themselves. Henry Kissinger frequently observed -- correctly -- that to such men "Political power is the ULTIMATE APHRODISIAC".
While you and I cannot fully relate to it, those in that mindset can justify ANY exercise of that POWER -- ANY ACTION -- no matter how brutal or extreme -- to increase and enhance a sensation that, for them, is beyond anything a "normal" human will experience outside sex. (This personality defect probably explains why Washington is the site of so many sex scandals and -- while hard to determine the exact numbers as it is "illegal" -- has a large and growing number of "sex workers".) And, frequently, to live with those otherwise despicable and loathsome actions, these people will convince themselves by muttering "It's for the greater good." (Actually, most all of it is for yet MORE POWER and WEALTH!)
Keep those historically verified truths in mind as you watch the video. But, be warned: You will find yourself becoming very angry.
As for a solution to the problem, I keep returning to the old line that "Politicians and baby diapers should be regularly changed -- and for the very same reasons". We got a start on that in November. If this place is to survive, we'd better keep it up!
DB
PS: I'd urge you to watch it ASAP. It will probably be taken down by the Google Gestapo once discovered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvk0A0KTc1M
On October 8, 2017 at 1:35 PM hp wrote:
I am baffled at how you got that message from my essay. Is English prose really that hard to understand? If you care to reread it, I was writing about the explanations put forth as to what happened in Vegas. I was not writing about the Deep State, or "American men who seek and attain power," or their "venal, brutish, self-serving megalomaniacal behavior." Are those problems in America in 2017? Absolutely. But that was not my subject. That would be a different essay, one perhaps you could write. I'm not saying there was no conspiracy, just that too many of the explanations that I have read extrapolate way beyond what the available evidence will bear. Worse, lack of evidence is taken as evidence. One commenter posted, "I would not dismiss any conspiracy theory." Not one? How about the assertion that pictures taken the next day showed no bodies, therefore there were no casualties? If the notion that emergency personnel should have left all bodies on site for 10 or 12 hours for a photo op is not ludicrous, I don't know what is. Another accused me of making fun of the theories I dealt with. I thought I was quite temperate. Perhaps it was my labeling "ludicrous" the above theory about no bodies. Is "ludicrous" insensitive because it suggests laughter? Well, I deem that theory laughable, but maybe I should have used "stupid" or "ignorant" or "depraved" or "utterly beyond the pale" or some such.
Bachert wrote
hp, If I DID misread your essay, accept my apology. I've been deeply concerned with the course this nation has been on since my days in the USAF during the Vietnam fiasco. Many of my friends and kids who were my combat engineering students as Permanent Party stationed at Corps of Engineers HQ (then at Fort Belvoir) have become names on The Wall.
The timing of your reply would seem to indicate that you did not see the accompanying video. Please do view it as it MAY produce the same cognitive dissonance such information produced in me when I first confronted it. But the evidence mounts that something deeply wrong is going on behind the scenes here. If you are not up to speed on that, Larry Grathwohl (an FBI informant in the PRE-MUELLER/COMEY days when it was a tad more trustworthy) can help. The link to HIS short video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2JHHN1qhyQ
And if you completely, totally trust the FBI, you need to read Hugh Galyean's letter at the link below. Here's MY back story on that.
I fear now that the FBI is deeply engaged in what, in earlier times, would have been a largely LOCAL matter, we will never know the truth. Factor in the rot now evident at the top levels of the FBI — thanks to the obozo holdovers and perfumed princes hanging to get their gold watch — the Keystone Cops would proababy do a better job, mainly because they don't have an agenda and want to.
Back in late 2016, retired FBI Agent Hugh Galyean wrote a SCATHING rant on the Comey/Hillary thing. I found his phone number out in L.A. and left a message thanking him. A few hours later my phone rang. It was Hugh who went off in Comey and several others at the top of the organization. He made it clear that all the current and former agents with whom he was in contact were FURIOUS at Comey and the other top brass. It was clear from his comments that there was MAJOR ROT at the top of the outfit he'd honorably served or decades.
If you don't recall him or that letter, it's at the link. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/a_retired_fbi_agent_addresses_james_comey_on_the_hillary_clinton_investigation.html
Note that Hugh's missive graced the pages of the AT as well.
Regards,
Dick Bachert PS: Oh yes. If you're not familiar with the name, here's a link to an interesting video on two time CMOH recipient General Smedley Butler, who, well ahead of Dwight Eisenhower's famous warning about the Military-Industrial Complex, wrote about it in his book, "WAR IS A RACKET". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58pTA2fUxA8
PPS: Like the sheep too many of us have become, we're being slowly herded into the Utopian socialists' New World Order. Where before "they" were using Border Collies and whistles, because we were not responding quickly enough, stronger, MORE ACTIVE measures have been called for by the oligarchs and our would-be masters. What's the old saying that covers this? Oh yes: "You can't make an omelet WITHOUT BREAKING A FEW EGGS."
Perhaps 60 will work!
Don't need to prove that. Just need to run all the IDs from all the guests and rule them out. At this point everyone who stayed there is a suspected accomplice.
And it may have been possible via a stairwell to escape UP to the Four Seasons, which starts on the 35th floor of the same building.
The 4 seasons would certainly track anyone entering from stairs or elevator.
Plus how FReepers figured out within 24 hours that the “alt right” perps at Charlottesville were Obama-Occupy CIAState plants, one of them who was on CNN’s payroll.
And the fact that perps are plants and these are false flag attacks on conservative mindsets, does not mean that no one was killed or injured.
But it doesn’t dismiss the idea that some of the injured are faking it.
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Many thanks for the kind words. God bless and be well.
TY and GBU2
My understanding on the $5M is that it was gross, not net.
“Noisome.”
“Occam’s razor.”
“Ergo...”
I can always tell when someone went to a safety school.
ISIS doesn’t have a habit of claiming one that wasn’t theirs. IOW, so far, when they claim it, it turns out it’s theirs.
Worse. Shrinks will prescribe over the phone without even seeing the patient.
“The group has a history of exaggerated, unsubstantiated or false claims, but these have picked up in frequency as its position at home became more tenuous.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-islamic-state-fake-claims-20171005-story.html
Street level... you mean like shooting congressmen at a baseball field?
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