Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969
As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had more than 10 rifles. He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. Thats all strange enough, but its even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didnt know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.
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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. Its significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.
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So, a person whos not a gun guy has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.
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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, its easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesnt seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events Ive ever seen.
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Same with the ex-army guy I talked to yesterday who was insistent there were 2 shooters. He also pointed out the number of casualties is to high for one shooter.
The brother is just plain weird. In all interviews I’ve seen with him, he never looks directly at the reporter or the camera. He looks down, up and sideways.
Sure sign of deception. This whole episode smells.
Don’t kid yourself. The hotel will be levelled after the story is set, so as not to allow further investigation of the site...
“He was the dead body left behind by the criminals.”
the real clue at this point is the timeline, together with the statement of ammo left over in the room. Why would a mass murderer throw ~ 500-600 rounds down range in ~20 minutes, then “commit suicide” with ammo left over and the SWAT team still 40-50 minutes from breaching your door?
The suicide would make some sense if shooter fired everything but the last round, using that one through he skull to check out with.
Also, why were 2 windows of the room shot out? not like shooter is markedly improving the field of view for shots at the massive target zone from 30 stories up?
I agree it is highly credible, or even likely, that there was more than one immediately involved at the sniper nest, and this POS (with massive gambling debt?) was indeed the dead body misdirection waste left behind.
At least another person ducked out of the sniper position in the confusion generated. There certainly was time and confusion in which to do this after making 20 minutes of mayhem and SWAT still somewhere suiting up and practicing “hut-huts”.
Reference end of “ConAir” or “Ocean’s Eleven” for the Hotel exit confusion scenario, both Vegas based. Or maybe another shooter or handler just went back to their room, conveniently located right down the hall, after Vince Fostering the identified shooter. Not hard for this person to play the post-event terrified tourist role, after thoroughly washing the gunpowder residue off their body.
Do not be surprised if that floor is now haunted.
No voter reg? No online crumbs, but clearly had some type of wealth? I smell track covering. Information suppresion going on.
The powers that be.
The media and the left have to fight the ISIS angle. If it came out that this was the result of ISIS influence in US no one would fight the travel ban that Trump wants for safety. That would harm the leftist agenda to destroy America.
Are you sure?
Leverage over time. Why is Trump a billionaire?
It's Obama's fault!
Also, I have never been on a forum where someone didn’t eventually say they know someone who knows someone that died at SH. Really? Not just this forum, any and all forums. Most of the parents names are listed, who did you personally know?
Thousands of rounds shot
And at his house
bingo, we have a winner!
Yeah, kind of “funny” we’ve not seen any CCTV footage from the hotel yet. There’s tons, I’m sure. These places are uber-wired.
A moment of silence for 59 dead; zero time for the approx. 3,300 that were killed Monday; will be today, and tomorrow and Thursday and...
Well, maybe Venezuela
Regarding your >1 shooter theory, do available sound recordings support it as being possible?
Regarding the number of people being hit .... Approximately how long was the barrage - from the first shot to the last? If an automatic weapon was being used initially, when the crowd was most densely packed in, could not 600 people get hit, including a single bullet passing through one person and striking another?
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