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Lawsuits announced against Charlottesville and Virginia State Police over ‘stand down’ order
The American Thinker ^ | 09/01/17 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 09/01/2017 6:11:51 AM PDT by pgkdan

The predictable violence that erupted in Charlottesville, Virginia, when police channeled opposing groups into the same confined space and then failed to intervene, requires explanation. Given the alacrity with which Democrat office holders and MSM exploited the violence for political gain, reasonable suspicions arise over whether or not this was intentionally set up as political theatre.

It already looks as though the official local investigation is shaping up as a whitewash. The man chosen as the “independent” investigator is a Democrat who reportedly donated to the Charlottesville mayor’s election.

That is why a civil suit may be necessary to get to the bottom of matters. Believe it or not, civil litigators have certain advantages over prosecutors or government investigations, in that constitutional protections against government abuses less directly apply in litigation. In depositions, for instance, testimony can be compelled, and its relevance later determined prior to be shown to a jury. That’s why this report from the Richmond Times-Dispatch is a reason for hope:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antifa; charlottesville
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I'm glad someone is stepping up and initiating a civil lawsuit. As we've seen in every other major scandal in Washington the Justice Department is on a permanent vacation. The only bits of truth that are being revealed are due to FOIA requests by government outsiders.
1 posted on 09/01/2017 6:11:51 AM PDT by pgkdan
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From the Richmond Times Dispatch:

A Verona-based law group is planning to file a lawsuit against Charlottesville, its police chief and the Virginia State Police for not protecting citizens in the Aug. 12 white nationalist rally .

Officials with Nexus Caridades Attorneys say they will sue city and state officials for “standing down” and not intervening in the violence, during which their client, Robert Sanchez Turner, was injured.

Attorneys did not specify in which court the lawsuit would be filed. State and federal laws allow civil rights cases to be filed in either local courts or U.S. District Court.

The organization will officially announce the lawsuit at an 11 a.m. news conference Friday in Emancipation Park, the site of the rally.

“Mr. Turner was assaulted while police officers watched but failed to act to keep him safe or arrest those responsible for the attacks,” Jen Little, public relations director for the organization, wrote in an email.

“As reported by Mr. Turner and confirmed by footage from dozens of media cameras and hundreds of handheld cameras and phones, police stood down. This stand-down enabled neo-Nazis to inflict a modern-day race war in the streets of Charlottesville,” Little wrote.

Of course there's no mention of the real violent actors here, Antifa, but it's a start.

2 posted on 09/01/2017 6:15:39 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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A suit will take forever and no one will care by the time anything comes out of it. Moreover, the media will ignore it; this is not the narrative they want to push.


3 posted on 09/01/2017 6:16:59 AM PDT by Starboard
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I dont think Governor McAwful and the mayor want this to ever go to trial
Hope the kid in jail is being protected from Arkancide
Sure has been a long curious lack of news over him


4 posted on 09/01/2017 6:20:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Starboard

Who cares what the media wants to push? Judicial Watch and the ACLJ have been forcing the FBI, State Dept and Justice to release information via FOIA requests pursuant to their suits. Waiting for the Feds to initiate action on their own is a waste of time. The only way they’ll do anything is if they’re pushed to do so. Filing a civil suit is a good first step. Hell...it’s the ONLY step anyone’s taking.


5 posted on 09/01/2017 6:23:53 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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They also need to sue the entity(s) behind antifa if possible.


6 posted on 09/01/2017 6:24:45 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: silverleaf
I dont think Governor McAwful and the mayor want this to ever go to trial

You're right about that. Someone needs to keep an eye on that kid or he's liable to hang himself in his cell with his belt that he doesn't have access to.

7 posted on 09/01/2017 6:25:33 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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Unfortunately this will go nowhere,

In cases such as DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989) and Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005), the Supreme Court has declined to put police and other public authorities under any general duty to protect individuals from crime. The decisions have been broadly unpopular, but Mike McDaniel at PJ Media takes the Court’s side on policy grounds: “This [lack of a particularized duty] might seem absolutely outrageous, but it is logical, rational, and unquestionably necessary.”

https://www.overlawyered.com/2011/12/the-police-have-no-obligation-to-protect-you-yes-really/


8 posted on 09/01/2017 6:33:47 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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To: Starboard; pgkdan; WildHighlander57; davikkm

Checkout the videos from Sonofnewo and his detailed examination of the Ford Fisher video. Only the first 9 minutes of Ford Fisher’s video is worth watching.

The video captions are intended to remind folks about the unanswered questions from another pivotal event in US history. The videos cited below are pure Charlottesville.
<>Ford Fisher video (first nine (9) minutes)- source info
<>Charlottesville’s Zapruder Film
<>Charlottesville’s Grassy Knoll Film
<>An Open Letter to Ford Fisher
<>Charlotteville’s School Book Depository Film

Watch this material in order and draw your own conclusion.


9 posted on 09/01/2017 6:34:33 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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“As reported by Mr. Turner and confirmed by footage from dozens of media cameras and hundreds of handheld cameras and phones, police stood down. This stand-down enabled neo-Nazis to inflict a modern-day race war in the streets of Charlottesville,” Little wrote.

Where's the footage of the "peaceful, torch light" protest of the Friday night before? Nothing happened then! It wasn't until law enforcement herded the two groups together, for media coverage/instigation, that the trouble started. Only to have law enforcement abandon their posts. And, I hate to say it, but it wasn't the KKK, White Supremacists, etc. that started it!

10 posted on 09/01/2017 6:35:55 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: pgkdan

Remove the laces from his velcro shoe tabs.


11 posted on 09/01/2017 6:36:52 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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...the Supreme Court has declined to put police and other public authorities under any general duty to protect individuals from crime. The decisions have been broadly unpopular, but Mike McDaniel at PJ Media takes the Court’s side on policy grounds: “This [lack of a particularized duty] might seem absolutely outrageous, but it is logical, rational, and unquestionably necessary.”

Thus placing the burden of self defense squarely on the individual!

12 posted on 09/01/2017 6:41:04 AM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: Bigg Red

Mark


13 posted on 09/01/2017 6:43:51 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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While I’m glad someone is doing something, this won’t go anywhere. It’s already case law that the police are under no duty to protect any individual from crime.


14 posted on 09/01/2017 6:48:00 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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While I’m glad someone is doing something, this won’t go anywhere. It’s already case law that the police are under no duty to protect any individual from crime.

The police were complicit in the violence. They're the ones that made sure the KKK and Antifa were in a confined space so they could square off against each other. They did more than simply fail to protect the individual mentioned. They made the violence inevitable.

15 posted on 09/01/2017 6:51:19 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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The city’s insurance company will make a settlement which Sanchez Turner will accept.
The blood-sucking lawyers will get their cut.
There will be NDAs all around and the court clerk will say,....

“NEXT!”


16 posted on 09/01/2017 6:51:40 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: JamesP81

I don’t believe that applies wearing the crime occurs in their general proximity.


17 posted on 09/01/2017 7:07:38 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: pgkdan
I read the linked article (and thank you for posting it-we don't see enough linked articles from American Thinker, IMO) and saw this curious piece:

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"...Update: add another planned lawsuit, this one appartently from the Left, as the law firm specilizes in immigration (an SJW favorite). Andrea Noble writes in the Washington Times:

A man who was assaulted during a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, is suing the city and state police, alleging that officers were ordered to stand down and failed to act even as they witnessed the attack.

According to the federal lawsuit, Robert Sanchez Turner was sprayed in the eye with pepper spray and beaten with canes, and had urine thrown on him during the Aug. 12 rally in Charlottesville, as police officers stood less than 10 feet away and did nothing to stop the assault or arrest the assailants.

“By commanding their subordinates to stand down while hundreds of white supremacists and their sympathizers assaulted and seriously injured counterprotesters, these defendants were essentially accessories to, and facilitators of, unconstitutional hate crime,” states the lawsuit, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times.

Nexus Caridades Attorneys, which filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Virginia, is expected to announce additional details about the case Friday..."

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Okay. Is there anyone besides me who read this and thought..."Hmmm...pepper spray...urine thrown on him" etc. simply doesn't sound like the tactics of either the Free Speech advocates or even in the worst case, any real Nazis or Klan who were actually there?

This sounds exactly like the tactics of the left, making one think there was either unintentional Blue-on-Blue violence (military term for friendly fire) which can only bring a smile to our faces, or intentional violence by leftists posing as Nazis/Klan on their own ideological brethren to serve a political purpose, ie. "eggs being broken to make an omelette"?

I find this odd.

18 posted on 09/01/2017 7:14:11 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: pgkdan

Thanks for the addition.

Of course the newspapers will support Antifa. But the ComDems own these criminals. They sure smell.

(I have friends in Syria, some Antifa are there, my friends don’t like them at all.)


19 posted on 09/01/2017 7:14:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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The Virginia police motto,( To serve and protect or just casually observe.)


20 posted on 09/01/2017 7:16:17 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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