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USS John S. McCain: US Navy sacks Joseph Aucoin as fleet commander
BBC (Bragging British Communists) ^ | August 23, 2017

Posted on 08/23/2017 8:31:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

The US Navy has dismissed Vice Adm Joseph Aucoin as commander of the Seventh Fleet following a string of collisions involving warships in Asia.

Ten sailors are still missing after the USS John S McCain collided with an oil tanker near Singapore on Monday.

Navy officials say human remains have since been found in sealed compartments on board the ship, which is now in port in Singapore.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: josephaucoin; seebreakingnews; usnavy; ussjohnsmccain
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To: Gamecock
Are sleeping compartments (right term?) routinely sealed at night or is it more than likely they were sealed after the collision.

"Berthing compartments" is the general term on Navy ships, and no, hatches are not typically sealed. Hatches that were sealed while sailors are sleeping in a compartment would present an egress issue should they have to evacuate rapidly.

41 posted on 08/23/2017 9:18:54 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: kenmcg
The USN has to look at themselves for the way these sailors were trained and for being politically correct...

Affirmative

42 posted on 08/23/2017 9:19:24 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: be-baw

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675069045_material-conditions-of-readiness_proper-labeling_ZEBRA-fittings_hatches-and-doors

Video will help to explain hatches. As soon as the ship sets condition ZEBRA the hatches are sealed to maintain a watertight integrity. Any damaged portion of the ship should be sealed from the other compartments. It is not known what condition the ship was at while in transit. Obviously it didn’t sink so they maintained integrity. Whoever was behind a sealed compartment that flooded is most likely one of the ten casualties. Once condition zebra is set you must get permission from Damage Control to pass through any watertight doors.


43 posted on 08/23/2017 9:29:01 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: be-baw

S.O.P. for hull breech is to seal off areas affected by the breech for loss-prevention. All areas of naval vessels are divided into compartments which can be sealed off in the event of a loss of hull integrity by water-tight doors.


44 posted on 08/23/2017 9:31:29 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Gamecock; cva66snipe; Mariner
"Are sleeping compartments (right term?) routinely sealed at night or is it more than likely they were sealed after the collision."

In my day (75-87), "berthing" compartment doors were not normally closed, unless General Quarters (GQ). That's the first thing sounded when hit by anything or an impending threat. IIRC, each door and hatch had a specific letter on it - X being always closed. Y being closed under certain circumstances. Z even less. Depends on the configuration of the particular ship's compartments. I could have the designations wrong, so I pinged the 2 best Navy guys on FR.

That said, once the McCain was hit they would go to automatic GQ which is broadcast over the entire ship which requires every door/hatch to be closed no matter the letter designation. There have been times that sailors had to be sacrificed to keep the ship from sinking and taking all down. Happened many times in WWII. Watch the movie, "Crimson Tide" where the Captain had to sacrifice some guys in the bilge bay to keep the sub from going down.

45 posted on 08/23/2017 9:31:41 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: pfflier

GPS is based on the longitude and latitude information THAT WE SEND OUT. If that’s messed with - ships could be in a harbor and ‘think’ they’re out to sea... Planes landing would have the same problem... their ‘navigational equipment’ could be telling them one thing and the reality would be another.

Read the link in my last post ...it looks to me like someone’s messing with navigation systems... could be the same with systems used in ICBM’s navigation. If I’m right - we’ve got a problem.


46 posted on 08/23/2017 9:32:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Trump stood behind Hillary for 47 seconds in a debate - now she wants an eternal pity party.)
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To: Gamecock

Yes, most hatches are secured.

My experience was on FF’s, FFG’s and various gators.


47 posted on 08/23/2017 9:34:52 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: GOPJ
>>Would hate to ‘send off a nuke’ to Pyongyang and have it hit San Francisco...<<

The devil on my left shoulder looks at that statement and says "I don't know..."

48 posted on 08/23/2017 9:37:05 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: be-baw

When entering port ship sets sea&anchor detail. Typical to set a higher level of watertight door settings during those evolutions. X-ray was normal steaming, yankee was modified higher level, zebra was for general quarters. We ran yankee at sea and anchor I’ve heard some commands do different. There are always some sealed spaces onboard.


49 posted on 08/23/2017 9:41:13 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: Navy Patriot; cva66snipe; Mariner

There is obviously some systemic problem in our Navy, whether funding, over-deployment, training, etc. Still, I’m glad to see the Navy holding to tradition of relieving (firing) those who are not fulfilling the mission - from Executive Officer to Captain now to fleet Admiral. Not sure why the Command Master Chief was fired on the Fitzgerald. Probably because he is top enlisted and has similar responsibilities.


50 posted on 08/23/2017 9:47:05 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: GOPJ
GPS is based on the longitude and latitude information THAT WE SEND OUT.

Not really ... it is based on time signals sent from satellites in known orbits. The receiver computes its location in 3-space based on receiving signals from 4 or more satellites. These signals can be jammed, rendering the receiver unable to compute its location. With more difficulty, they can be spoofed causing the receiver to compute an incorrect location. As a receiver moves away from the source of jamming/spoofing, it will begin to detect correct signals and correctly compute its location.

51 posted on 08/23/2017 9:50:51 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Navy Patriot

Appointed 7th Fleet Commander under the Obama Administration in September 2015:

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Leadership/Display/Article/644276/commander-us-7th-fleet-vice-adm-joseph-p-aucoin/

So at least 17 sailors have been killed and three ships have seriously crashed in 23 months of his command of the 7th!


52 posted on 08/23/2017 9:58:11 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: A Navy Vet
There is obviously some systemic problem in our Navy...

Agreed, but it has been going on longer than the brass or politicians want to admit.

That's why we have a "Pause" in operations and quick firings all of a sudden THIS time.

The American Public is beginning to catch on from these repeated incidents and needs to be misdirected so as to NOT discern the real cause, Political Correctness being forced on the military.

53 posted on 08/23/2017 10:02:34 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: GOPJ
could be the same with systems used in ICBM’s navigation.

Minuteman ICBMs use inertial navigation. There is no use of GPS anywhere in the flight profile. There is no use of GPS anywhere in the targeting. I know, I did that for a living for several years.

Cruise missiles do use GPS in some cases but they are not ICBMs. Navy SLBMs use inertial guidance like Minuteman but the subs launching them can use either inertial guidance or GPS to establish their launch position.

54 posted on 08/23/2017 10:30:44 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: be-baw

All of them if a collision alarm was heeded.


55 posted on 08/23/2017 10:48:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Navy Patriot

I have so much respect for sailors. One of my worst nightmares is drowning. I would rather do a night HALO jump (over land of course).


56 posted on 08/23/2017 11:12:57 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: discostu

That’s great in theory, but when frames and sheet metal are twisted and displaced, I think you can envision a situation beyond the engineering limits of the design.


57 posted on 08/23/2017 2:19:28 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: GOPJ

“GPS is based on the longitude and latitude information THAT WE SEND OUT.”

My Galaxy S7 also uses Russian GPS.


58 posted on 08/23/2017 2:32:14 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Sometimes doors very near the point of impact will get damaged. Which is part of why ships are designed with small chambers so one broken door means two small chambers flood.


59 posted on 08/23/2017 2:49:48 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: A Navy Vet

Thanks


60 posted on 08/23/2017 7:07:09 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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