Posted on 08/20/2017 6:35:30 PM PDT by Enchante
A Navy guided-missile destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, collided with a commercial vessel east of Singapore early Monday morning local time, the Navy said.
There were 10 sailors missing and five injured, the Navy said.
The collision with the merchant ship Alnic MC occurred east of the Straits of Malacca and Singapore at 6:24 a.m. Japan Standard Time, as the McCain was on its way for a routine port visit in Singapore, the Navy said.
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How do these collisions happen? I don’t get it.
That makes if even more bizarre
The tanker most likely was lite up like a Christmas Tree. Range, port/starboard and decks lights likely on too. Not to mention wheel house/crew lights.
Singapore is barely in the northern hemisphere, only 77 nautical miles north of the equator.
It is called seamanship 101!
Even 90min before sunrise it’s already been a-dawning for quite awhile; it’s not the black of night, anymore, but that early gray light as the eastern sky grows rosy. Call it half light, or whatever, it’s no place to successfully hide a 600ft tanker.
I’ve never heard of things being this bad in the USN except when other, well-equipped navies were actively shooting at our vessels.
I’m starting to consider sabotage.
Yeah...you’re not alone, there.
My thinking is this: TWICE, now, and it’s a near-identical situation — so much so I thought I was having serious de ja vu. I think there’s a shared gap in training that’s leaving these bridge crews with a blind spot.
Same incomplete training.
Same blind spot in every crew.
Left otherwise unaddressed you can expect similar accidents with every ship manned by a crew that came through that same training.
It seems incredible that two such very similar accidents could happen within weeks of each other.... of a nature that really should never happen.
Reports saying both anti-ballistic. IOW, targeted for their ability to take down missiles?
Decommissioned the first John S McCain, tied up to the quay wall between piers 3 & 4 at the 32nd Street Naval Station in San Diego. The future senator attended...I carried our national ensign, ships’ color guard. My one claim to fame.
Second ship, we’re underway, I’m staring at an SPS-10 radar in Combat, report up to the bridge, “skunk alpha” bearing, range, and we continued to update the bridge on this radar contact, steady bearing decreasing range. Maybe it was the mid-watch, dark-thirty. This went on for a long time, SBDR.
We did not turn. We “remained in our op-area” and the OOD followed the old man’s standing orders to remain in our op area...meanwhile, skunk alpha, SBDR. Until....finally....they woake the captain up and we turned the ship. Walked out on the O1 level weatherdeck, big almost empty tanker, couple hundred yards off the port side, your could see and hear the screw or screws turning, as close as we’d get during underway replenishment.
The other accident, I wondered if that happened...they were trying to stay in their op-area...the OOD simply following the captain’s orders...some OOD too afraid to go against orders...collision. This one sounds like they were in a busy area...going into port? Imagine the salmon rush on the freeway and you have an idea of how and why it could happen.
God’s peace to the missing sailors.
Senator McCain = John Sidney McCain III, who is a former POW and never reached the rank of Captain or Admiral.
Admiral John Sidney McCain I was a WWII Admiral in the Pacific.
Admiral John Sidney McCain II was a Vietnam War era admiral (CINCPAC during the Vietnam War).
100 degrees?
That's a new datum to me. Could you please direct me to the source?
FOX had an interview with a navy type who said ‘the current level of training is no where near as intense as it used to be’ ...
Maybe: New guys need to be coddled and allowed lots of leisure time to recover from the strain of working ...
McCain visited the ship last July in Vietnam. http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/ddg56/Pages/Senator-John-McCain-Visits-USS-John-S.-McCain-in-Vietnam.aspx#.WZqdUuvXerV
The Commander is Alfredo Sanchez from Puerto Rico.
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/ddg56/Pages/bio1.aspx#.WZqevOvXerV
Captain, oh my captain ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MYsii4DZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZLDI1FtRw
You suppose that maybe, just maybe that there may be something going on here with radar or sonar technology being used that we do not know about.
Could one of these nations be using a jamming device or "cloaking" device aboard the cargo ships to hide these cargo ships so that these mishaps occur. As far as the cloaking device, I am not saying they up and disappear but give them a different radar signature or placement on the water.
Knowing that the US Navy relies so heavily on technology and not on good ol eyeballs and glasses this could be what is going on. I got that feeling, same sea, same type of ship.
Adds up and the US better get on top of it real quick before the missiles start flying.
Had not all of the officers in the chains of command on the DDG’s received fitness reports judging them to be competent in their roles?
Who passed them up the career ladder?
If your suspicion is correct then the entire US fleet is in grave danger.
Our military relies on GPS way too much. From the grunt to the battleship the GPS is the guiding light during a battle for fixing points on a map.
To kill us, efff up the GPS and our military is blind. Map reading and basic compass reading is only brushed over and not drilled into the grunts. Why spend all this time, you got the GPS to guide you around. You want something struck with arty, give them a GPS reading, bammmm. Map grids, Whaaa???
I have a GPS and love it but still practice my skills on a grid map when I have a chance.
I would suggest our military do the same.
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