Posted on 07/29/2017 5:18:37 AM PDT by goldstategop
Electric car maker Tesla has rolled out its new Model 3 vehicle - the company's cheapest car to date.
The first 30 customers - most of them employees of the company - received their cars on Friday.
Chief executive Elon Musk said the Model 3 was the "best car for its cost, either electric or gasoline".
Prices start at $35,000 (£26,650), which the firm hopes will bring mass market interest.
The price is still higher than that of rival electric car the Nissan Leaf, which starts at $30,680, or the hybrid Chevrolet Volt, which goes for $34,095.
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Yep, the front end has got the Mazda disease.
That said, I think Gold State GOP called it when he said these electric cars have a niche as secondary vehicles for urban driving. That will be their anchor and as battery technology improves they will expand from there.
The $7,500 subsidy goes away once Tesla has sold 200,000 cars. I wonder how many of the 500,000 people who have “reserved” their Tesla realize this?
Been on this site for 11 years. Still get a kick at how many Negative Nellies there are.
So what if this product fails, or isn’t as nice as your 70 year old Chevy? In America we have the freedom to innovate. Most innovations fail, but ultimately something better comes out of the process. And there have been plenty of other innovations that were assisted by taxpayer dollars, why the extreme vitriol for electric cars? I say the more choices the better.
Do you object to home mortgage tax deduction?
The EV tax credit is that: a tax credit. It’s not cash handed out. I’m all for lower taxes, and if we can’t get across the board cuts, then I’ll take what we can get. Tesla doesn’t get that $7500, you get a tax break after forking over that cash.
I not against Musk selling cars. I’m against him scamming the government to do it.
Model 3 achieves 345 km of range per charge in Canada ,Hmm did they factor in the COLD WEATHER
Regardless of how the subsidy is structured, both the car buyer and car maker benefit. The buyer has to put out less cash, and the car maker will sell more cars and can charge more for them knowing that Uncle Sugar will pick up part of the tab.
But ultimately, it really doesn’t matter, in the fairly near future, the tax credit/subsidy will be gone.
Electricity Rates will sky rocket when people a trapped by Governments and have to buy Electric Cars
apples/oranges.
What I can’t wait for is the caterwauling to start once states begin imposing an EV-specific wheel tax because their gasoline tax revenues are drooping.
Oh, oh, oh, ......I know!
(Hand raised high and frantically waving)
Go with the 57
(Smiling with pride after answering correctly)
The gangs in Chicongo stole the charging stations...
The Achilles heel of all current electric cars besides range is recharge time. Musk is producing a car with reasonable range, but who wants to spend hours charging it? Imagine you are taking a vacation to the Black Hills of South Dakota in your Tesla. Starting out with a full charge in Sioux Falls you zip west on I-90. It is summer in the northern plains so you need your air conditioning and the long drive is boring so you are enjoying some tunes on the stereo. Both the use of the A/C and sound system drain your battery as well as the 90 degree heat. By the time you reach Wall Drug you need a charge big time. The half a dozen charging stations are currently in use so you wait your turn for hours while others charge up. Now you can expect another 4-6 hours to fill your battery. You end up finding a hotel room in Wall to spend the night while your car recharges. In the meantime others in gasoline powered cars you passed so smugly have fill up and are enjoying the light show at Mt. Rushmore
“What’s the effective range of the car in August with the ac running or January with the heater on?”
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/are-there-range-estimates-based-ac-usage
Yes. When all is said and done, Musk’s true genius lies in separating the smokestacks from his cars and money from taxpayers.
“In addition to the federal subsidy, Texas has a $2500 subsidy on electric cars, but you can’t apply it to Teslas because it is illegal to sell Teslas in Texas because Tesla doesn’t use dealers.”
And the sad thing is that Texas will NEVER get a dime of what it saves the federal government by prevent the THEFT of tax dollars by Tesla owners ($7,500 per vehicle...hard to believe).
Hopefully that will change under Trump.
310 mile range. And you can get a 170 mile recharge in 30 minutes.
E-cars have a huge future.
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