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Tesla Model 3: Elon Musk Rolls Out Mass Market Model
BBC NEWS ^ | 07/29/2017 | BBC NEWS

Posted on 07/29/2017 5:18:37 AM PDT by goldstategop

Electric car maker Tesla has rolled out its new Model 3 vehicle - the company's cheapest car to date.

The first 30 customers - most of them employees of the company - received their cars on Friday.

Chief executive Elon Musk said the Model 3 was the "best car for its cost, either electric or gasoline".

Prices start at $35,000 (£26,650), which the firm hopes will bring mass market interest.

The price is still higher than that of rival electric car the Nissan Leaf, which starts at $30,680, or the hybrid Chevrolet Volt, which goes for $34,095.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; bbcnews; electriccar; elonmusk; massmarket; model3; tesla
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To: Fresh Wind

Yep, the front end has got the Mazda disease.

That said, I think Gold State GOP called it when he said these electric cars have a niche as secondary vehicles for urban driving. That will be their anchor and as battery technology improves they will expand from there.


61 posted on 07/29/2017 7:06:41 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: hal ogen

The $7,500 subsidy goes away once Tesla has sold 200,000 cars. I wonder how many of the 500,000 people who have “reserved” their Tesla realize this?


62 posted on 07/29/2017 7:09:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: goldstategop
There’s always the cost of gas and maintenance.

When it gets expensive, an EV becomes more competitive.


Maintenance cost are controlled by doing your own, as much as possible. Every car needs lubricants, tires, brake pads, etc.

You'd have to objectively analyze the numbers, but empirically, I just can't see how EVs can compete with small gasoline engine cars on an apples to apples basis.
63 posted on 07/29/2017 7:10:03 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: goldstategop

Been on this site for 11 years. Still get a kick at how many Negative Nellies there are.

So what if this product fails, or isn’t as nice as your 70 year old Chevy? In America we have the freedom to innovate. Most innovations fail, but ultimately something better comes out of the process. And there have been plenty of other innovations that were assisted by taxpayer dollars, why the extreme vitriol for electric cars? I say the more choices the better.


64 posted on 07/29/2017 7:12:52 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Democrats are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: hal ogen

Do you object to home mortgage tax deduction?

The EV tax credit is that: a tax credit. It’s not cash handed out. I’m all for lower taxes, and if we can’t get across the board cuts, then I’ll take what we can get. Tesla doesn’t get that $7500, you get a tax break after forking over that cash.


65 posted on 07/29/2017 7:15:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Hazwaste

I not against Musk selling cars. I’m against him scamming the government to do it.


66 posted on 07/29/2017 7:16:46 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: goldstategop

Model 3 achieves 345 km of range per charge in Canada ,Hmm did they factor in the COLD WEATHER


67 posted on 07/29/2017 7:24:22 AM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: ctdonath2

Regardless of how the subsidy is structured, both the car buyer and car maker benefit. The buyer has to put out less cash, and the car maker will sell more cars and can charge more for them knowing that Uncle Sugar will pick up part of the tab.

But ultimately, it really doesn’t matter, in the fairly near future, the tax credit/subsidy will be gone.


68 posted on 07/29/2017 7:27:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: goldstategop

Electricity Rates will sky rocket when people a trapped by Governments and have to buy Electric Cars


69 posted on 07/29/2017 7:28:14 AM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: littleharbour
Between the two hotels there were 14 charging stations. And not a single one was being used.

This is great news for the environment--no electricity was being wasted! :-)
70 posted on 07/29/2017 7:29:31 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: ctdonath2

apples/oranges.


71 posted on 07/29/2017 8:04:06 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen

What I can’t wait for is the caterwauling to start once states begin imposing an EV-specific wheel tax because their gasoline tax revenues are drooping.


72 posted on 07/29/2017 9:15:47 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: DaxtonBrown

Oh, oh, oh, ......I know!
(Hand raised high and frantically waving)
Go with the 57
(Smiling with pride after answering correctly)


73 posted on 07/29/2017 9:36:40 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: goldstategop
Will it carry 7 people and tow a 24 foot boat? Truthfully, I'm waiting for steam cars to make a comeback!!! 😀
74 posted on 07/29/2017 10:01:27 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: usconservative

The gangs in Chicongo stole the charging stations...


75 posted on 07/29/2017 10:04:01 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: goldstategop

The Achilles heel of all current electric cars besides range is recharge time. Musk is producing a car with reasonable range, but who wants to spend hours charging it? Imagine you are taking a vacation to the Black Hills of South Dakota in your Tesla. Starting out with a full charge in Sioux Falls you zip west on I-90. It is summer in the northern plains so you need your air conditioning and the long drive is boring so you are enjoying some tunes on the stereo. Both the use of the A/C and sound system drain your battery as well as the 90 degree heat. By the time you reach Wall Drug you need a charge big time. The half a dozen charging stations are currently in use so you wait your turn for hours while others charge up. Now you can expect another 4-6 hours to fill your battery. You end up finding a hotel room in Wall to spend the night while your car recharges. In the meantime others in gasoline powered cars you passed so smugly have fill up and are enjoying the light show at Mt. Rushmore


76 posted on 07/29/2017 10:28:25 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcherhttp://www.stone)
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To: ops33

“What’s the effective range of the car in August with the ac running or January with the heater on?”

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/are-there-range-estimates-based-ac-usage


77 posted on 07/29/2017 11:15:53 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: Nicholas Sharpe

Yes. When all is said and done, Musk’s true genius lies in separating the smokestacks from his cars and money from taxpayers.


78 posted on 07/29/2017 11:19:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

“In addition to the federal subsidy, Texas has a $2500 subsidy on electric cars, but you can’t apply it to Teslas because it is illegal to sell Teslas in Texas because Tesla doesn’t use dealers.”

And the sad thing is that Texas will NEVER get a dime of what it saves the federal government by prevent the THEFT of tax dollars by Tesla owners ($7,500 per vehicle...hard to believe).

Hopefully that will change under Trump.


79 posted on 07/29/2017 12:40:23 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: central_va

310 mile range. And you can get a 170 mile recharge in 30 minutes.

E-cars have a huge future.


80 posted on 07/31/2017 8:18:54 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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