Posted on 06/28/2017 4:09:03 PM PDT by Kaslin
The problem women have with marrying scuzzy men is that the men get even scuzzier. They often end up as cheating, lying, drunken bums who abuse their wives & families.
Wannabes
As far as I can tell they don’t any males anymore.
Women, who are women, want to be cherished. That means valued. A woman wants to know she is more valuable than the man’s stupid golf club. Because men value stupid stuff.
Men, who are men, want to be respected. A woman keeps her brilliant mouth shut as he drives past the correct off ramp. Let him make mistakes.
re Dr Pat Allen
I was happy to hear that Rush has now heard of Dr. Peterson. I have listened to him for a little while now - funny, though, my lefty son introduced Jordan Peterson to me by sending me the Joe Rogan interview. Lol - I don’t think my son realized how much Dr. Peterson is NOT in line with him.
I know a few young women - typical, urban, post-modern types who consider themselves progressive, leftist, fashionable, open-minded, tolerant, etc...
Some are dating pajama boys, and trying to make a go of it while complaining about the boy’s lack of initiative, laziness, whining, etc..., while other women of this group are simply alone, self-absorbed, or bitter. I don’t think any are happy.
Yet they can’t see any other way.
Your screen-name gives away your experience in this area!
That psychologist is just confirming red pill ideology. Same with mgtow ideology.
In a nutshell it is called alpha f***s/beta bucks.
I was then given some advice. On a date, the girl wants the man to decide what to do and where to go. They like the man to be decisive. So I would arrive on a date with a plan for the entire evening and the girl would not have to make a single decision. This immediately turned my dating life around. Then I ended up getting married and have been so ever since.
/sarc
Not just you. My husband did construction work in college and bought an ice cream truck, which allowed him to graduate from a private college summa cum laude. He’s a mensch.
In our first home he repaired our sun room including the roof and supporting structure and built three decks.
Had a date with this one gal one time.
We went to dinner.
I have a habit, when I’m at a restaurant, to “clean” my area.
Used sugar packets, butter tabs, creamers and such, get scooped up and put on an empty plate.
When I’m done with my meal, I stack my plates and silverware, so that the waitress can easily grab them.
I am of the belief that dining out is a mutual “consideration”.
I admire the waiter or waitresses service,
they admire my tip.
I am out to have a nice experience dining out.
I want my waiter/waitress to be pleasant.
If I EXPECT pleasantness, I offer pleasantness.
I have no idea the day the waitress has had.
I have no control over that.
I do have control over how I engage with and treat her.
Honest smiles and heartfelt cheerfulness, do a lot to put others at ease.
If you look to be a blessing to others, it makes it easier and often times they want to be a blessing back.
Thus, I end up having a nice dining experience.
It also builds goodwill, in that at future points, that waitress/ waiter remembers you. They are quick to greet you, with a smile. They’re a little friendlier. Their service is a little sharper. Often, they take care of needs even when you aren’t their table.
Back to my story.
As I’m on this date. I pick up my litter and stack my plates and silverware.
This woman I was with, excoriated me for doing it.
She felt that the waitress was just a lowly worker and should do it.
I never asked her out again.
I’m a construction worker.
I’m around rough, gruff and crude people all the time.
Anger for some is a way of life.
I also realize that I can be much like the guys I work with.
I WANT to be a little different than that.
I want someone who is happy, kind and considerate of others and hope that my being around them, they will rub off on me.
I was working at a school one time.
A teacher had a poster on their door.
It read:
Everybody brings joy into a room.
Some when they enter.
Others when they leave.
I want to be a person who brings joy into a room when I enter.
Should I marry, I want my wife to do the same.
(for me as well as others)
I bust my table too. Can’t help it. Just do.
LOL!
Some are dating pajama boys, and trying to make a go of it while complaining about the boy’s lack of initiative, laziness, whining, etc..., while other women of this group are simply alone, self-absorbed, or bitter. I don’t think any are happy.
Yet they can’t see any other way.
But didn't you get the memo, PGR88?
It's {the current year}, not the 1950s!
One problem is that the great masses of American women, when polled, often *say* what they want are Pajama Boys. They’re often quite vehement about it.
You sound like a decent, considerate, terrific guy.
Your date might have been decent, considerate, and terrific but maybe she had a very strict grandmother who never allowed the china stacked, never allowed the wrong fork used,never allowed all the meat cut up all at once and never allowed politics discussed at the table.
Of course, if she gave you a hard time, she might have been a pain in the neck female.
Thankyou.
Nearly 25 yrs ago when I first got married my wife said I was gruff and complained about it. I said fine you want a limp wrist BF Pierce type okay. For a week I agreed with everything she said or requested, brown nosed, sucked up and apologized profusely at the wiff of anything I thought she was upset about.
By day three she could hardly stand to be around me. Finally after five days she come to me begging please I want my grouchy, contrary MAN back I can’t stand you this way. I asked did I make my point? Yes she said you are you I want that cranky old bear back. I said I’m me, I’m 27 yrs old and I am not changing, my Dad is this way, he’ll your Dad is as well . She said I know sorry I tried to change you. 25 yrs later we are still going strong. And she hates beta males with a passion.
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