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Is America Really Coming Apart, As Charles Murray Suggests?
Mises Institute ^ | June 27, 2017 | Jeff Deist

Posted on 06/27/2017 7:10:08 PM PDT by Mafe

A new Rasmussen poll reports that a majority of voters think so, and it certainly feels that way. Since Donald Trump’s election in November, the pace and intensity of deeply divisive rhetoric has accelerated. Antifa and the Alt-Right are literally fighting in the streets. Combative talking heads on cable news, vicious social media exchanges, riots at universities, a bitter special election in Georgia, and even the shooting of a congressman have both sides rethinking the entire political process and talking about abandoning the “rule of law.”

It is an uneasy time, a time for hard questions. Can politics really provide a solution to our problems, or is it the cause? Should we still abide by democratic processes when a significant portion of the country is enraged by the outcome? What if voting and elections simply weren’t anymore? These are the questions we need to ask and answer honestly.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; decentralization; polarization; politics; secession; theleft; violence
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1 posted on 06/27/2017 7:10:09 PM PDT by Mafe
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To: Mafe

It aint coming together, but it will soon.


2 posted on 06/27/2017 7:11:41 PM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Mafe

Liberal tears, sweeter than whine.


3 posted on 06/27/2017 7:11:50 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Mafe
Rasmussen poll

Then, it must be true.

4 posted on 06/27/2017 7:12:48 PM PDT by NutsOnYew
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To: 14themunny; 21stCenturion; 300magnum; A Strict Constructionist; abigail2; AdvisorB; Aggie Mama; ...
I rarely invoke the Federalist/Anti-Federalist ping list, but this short article caught my attention.
5 posted on 06/27/2017 7:17:18 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Mafe
talking about abandoning the “rule of law.”

That train left the station long ago, in regards to leftist liberal Democrats. "Rule of anarchy" is routinely employed by the left. The only ones following the "rule of law" are those on the right, and we are the ones who are saying enough is enough. We've taken so much abuse from the left. Time is here to fight back and fight hard, and to h*ll with the leftists when they get hurt.

6 posted on 06/27/2017 7:21:06 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Mafe

DEMONIC STRONGHOLDS are being taken down as the battle rages for the soul of AMERICA. CHRISTIANS, put on the ARMOR of GOD so you will still be standing when the battle is over.

WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A10-18&version=NLT


7 posted on 06/27/2017 7:27:38 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I’m reading “In Our Hands” 100 pages. Not bad. Give $10k to everyone over 21. Get rid of everything else. Libertarian? Maybe not but he’s a smart fella. Got a college chancellor beat up.


8 posted on 06/27/2017 7:35:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Mafe

Leftists are coming apart.


9 posted on 06/27/2017 7:38:43 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Morning in America Again, again.)
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To: Mafe

NO, America is emphatically not coming apart. What is coming apart is the feudal Oligarchy’s fascist globalist agenda. We are watching the end days for the aristocracy, brought to you by Silicon Valley and the Internet. Their game plan, assets and history are now a mouse click away and they have run out of time. This why all the panic with their unloosing of the bootlick press, sheer desperation.

The left doesn’t know it yet, but they are the oligarchy’s stooges in their crypto-Nazi final gambit for world government. The “progressives” are starting to put the pieces together...at a glacial pace, needless to say, but a lot of my lefty playpals are loosing patience with the left’s unholy alliance with Islam and it’s utterly inhuman demonic treatment of women.

We need to be welcoming to their apostates and help that tide to rise.


10 posted on 06/27/2017 7:40:17 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: Mafe

Nope!


11 posted on 06/27/2017 7:40:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Yes!
Libtards Suck It Up!


12 posted on 06/27/2017 7:42:18 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Mafe

Obama the Commie gets Elected.

He promises to Fundamentally Transform America.

He sides with Criminals like Trayvon and any other Thug that comes along and he Pardons hundreds of Drug Dealers who he says were non violent Offenders, even though many used Guns in committing their Crimes.

He Pardons “Chelsea” Manning who committed Treason because why, he’s a misunderstood “Transsexual”?

He lights up OUR White House like a Rainbow Flag when the SCOTUS shreds the Constitution and makes Gay Marriage a Right, rubbing the noses of Christians (and Muslims when you think about it) into the ground.

He says “the Police acted Stupidly” without knowing any facts.

He tells his supporters to get in People’s (who oppose his Policies) faces.

He tells his supporters, if they bring a Knife you bring a Gun.

His Black AG publicly states that he will not enforce Hate Crime Laws against “his people”.

He says he has “a Phone and a Pen” and nobody blinks an eye.

He is caught on a hot Mic telling the evil Russians that he will be “more flexible after the Election” regarding reducing the size of OUR Nuclear Deterrent.

Despite all this and more, those who opposed Obama’s Policies didn’t Riot in the Streets attacking their Political Opponents and the Police and there was no talk of the Country irreversibly splitting apart at the seams.

We are living inside a Twilight Zone Episode or a Liberal Wet Dream depending on your outlook.


13 posted on 06/27/2017 7:50:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: roadcat

When the right abandons the “rule of law” they go to prison.

When the left abandons the “rule of law” they get either elected or government benefits.


14 posted on 06/27/2017 7:53:50 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Why is it no one ever discusses the rabid Amerophobia which infects Islam and its adherents?)
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To: Mafe
With the proviso that the author of this piece is actually quoting another author, I can only say that he is impossibly naive if he thinks that a workable solution to a disagreeable national election result is a greater emphasis on state government. Certain of us would welcome a return of power to the states, but that isn't even remotely a progressive position.

That is not what the progressives want, have ever wanted, or intend to tolerate. Their alternative to a Trump government is not a shift of power toward decentralization, it is a Hillary government by force or whatever means necessary, authoritarian, dictatorial, totalitarian. This is evidenced in their clearly stated preference not for toleration of alternative points of view, but for outlawing their very expression. Of all of the thoroughly silly things to accuse progressives of desiring, states' rights is probably the silliest.

Progressives’ sense of inevitability has been deeply shaken by Trump and the rise of nationalist movements in Europe. Has it been shaken enough to consider real alternatives to social democracy?

Certainly it has: violence in the streets and a revolutionary chic that is so far bloodless in their direction and brutal in the direction of their opponents. This is no civil disagreement, their very signs proclaim proudly "This Is War" and we'd better start taking them at their word. They have captured just enough control of state power, academic approval, media programming and a heavy presence within the legal system to get away with this asymmetrical warfare, at least until now.

Ideally a flurry of reciprocal violence will inform their activists that it isn't going to be quite that easy and allow everyone to back off from the abyss, but I see no signs at all that reason is likely to lead them that direction. Perhaps the author can explain his optimism in that regard, but frankly it seems a little unrealistic at the moment.

15 posted on 06/27/2017 8:02:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Antifa and the Alt-Right are literally fighting in the streets.

Is there some distinction between "literally fighting in the streets" and just plain-old "fighting in the streets"?
16 posted on 06/27/2017 8:10:36 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Publius

America is not coming apart but the 25% that identify as moonbat is.


17 posted on 06/27/2017 8:22:37 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Big Red Badger
I always liked Nanners term......

Embrace the Suck!

18 posted on 06/27/2017 8:24:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Publius

You probably read Charles Murrays book too. It was absolutely fascinating. He nailed it in the first chapter and explained everything in context.

In the 1950s America had a shared cultural identity. Everyone got their news from the same two or three newspapers and three network channels. Now you have 8 million cable channels 75 trillion websites. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle.


19 posted on 06/27/2017 8:29:36 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Mafe

Activist judges have destroyed the rule of law, for which we will all pay dearly.


20 posted on 06/27/2017 8:51:44 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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