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Ted Poe, Freedom Caucus Dropout: 'Saying No Is Easy'
newsmax.com ^ | 27 Mar 2017

Posted on 03/27/2017 9:05:20 AM PDT by Helicondelta

Texas U.S. Rep. Ted Poe quit the conservative House Freedom Caucus on Sunday after lawmakers failed to pass a bill to replace the Affordable Care Act two days before.

Poe had prepared to vote for the Republican American Health Care Act, which was ultimately pulled from the House floor when Republicans learned they did not have enough votes to pass it, reported Fox News. Poe said he was unhappy with the caucus opposition to the bill.

"To deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," said Poe, per Fox.

"Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead."

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KEYWORDS: biggovpopulists; gopefan; obamacarecaucus; populists; servitudecaucus; suckercare; tedpoe
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To: Jarhead9297

Then they should have presented that to Trump. They didn’t. When he asked what it would take to get aboard they told him, he got it for them and then they said no they wanted something more. Bad faith negotiating, nothing lower. Moving the goalposts is not done in the real world, it’s a Weasley politicians trick. I applaud Poe for walking away from these guys.


41 posted on 03/27/2017 9:58:50 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DoughtyOne
It’s what they should have done to begin with, if they were serious.

They weren't. They never were. There was never any real effort to repeal obungholecare, and there never will be. It will explode. We will get single payer from that explosion. I'll never vote for another rotten, worthless piece of trash Republican, including Trump, ever again.

42 posted on 03/27/2017 10:02:51 AM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: lodi90

Exactly. We either hang together and back POTUS or we hang separately. Sadly, the never Trumpers and their dupes can’t see the forest through the trees.

__________________________________________________

Backing POTUS would be so easy to do if POTUS were not bashing conservatives AND sucking up to Paul Ryan.

How in the world can Donald Trump who campaigned as an outsider and who promised to defeat the cronyism in the GOP-e end up on the same team as Ryan and the RINO’s?


43 posted on 03/27/2017 10:03:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: dware
Right. All the sixty times the House passed Obamacare repeal while Obama was President was nothing more than for-show pandering.

I guess the insurance company lobbyists must like Obamacare, because that's the only reason I can think why they wouldn't repeal it now.

44 posted on 03/27/2017 10:03:21 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: lodi90
We either hang together and back POTUS or we hang separately.

Then we hang separate. Trump hitched his trailer to Ryan. Bad idea. Trump should have pushed the very same repeal that the GOP voted for fifty some times between 2010 and 2016. He didn't. They aren't serious about repeal, not at all. Obungholecare was designed to explode, with the next step being single payer. That's what we're going to end up with, thanks to Trump and the traitorous GOP. Screw that. I ain't playing the game anymore.

45 posted on 03/27/2017 10:05:22 AM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: Trump20162020
I guess the insurance company lobbyists must like Obamacare

They LOVE it. Guaranteed enrollment, and MILLIONS in gubmint cash. What's not to love?

46 posted on 03/27/2017 10:06:41 AM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: joesbucks
Trump has in the past seemed to have supported single payer.

 

Yep. And if you read his recent tweets and pay attention to recent blogs who quote "unnamed sources", you'll get the idea that Trump will soon begin negotiations with Pelosi and the Rats.

Since the Repubs didn't play ball with him.

47 posted on 03/27/2017 10:06:54 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Jarhead9297

Bwhahaha Lee a never Trumper. It’s always the same with this crowd of personality cultists.


Actually, it’s has always been all about policy with Trump. Now the agenda of the POTUS. The Wall, Trade, tax reform, etc. All of that has been damaged by the dead end tantrum of beltway careerists on Ryancare that you happily cheer.

I see you’re still deluded as ever. A certified sore loser and never Trump Cruzlim cultist. You worship a “pious” Christian who made millions and self admittedly gave nothing to charity. If that isn’t a personality cult nothing is. You project like a Democrats. Are you a Democrat by chance?


48 posted on 03/27/2017 10:07:36 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: dware

Then we hang separate.


Ready to surrender after 60 days? What a patriot.


49 posted on 03/27/2017 10:09:36 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90; Trump20162020
RE:”Is there some reason Ryan can’t pass that bill again? Other than he knows/fears now it would actually be signed by the sitting President.

The reason is there is little support. Jim Jordan, Rand, etc. are great at flapping his gums on TV. Not so great at gathering support for their healthcare bill. So we’re left with nothing after the freedom caucus’ arson. Make no mistake: opposition to this bill from likes of never Trumpers like Mike Lee and Mark Sanford was primarily to damage POTUS and make him a one termer.”

Trump is not calling for a straight repeal now nor did he run on that.

He promised a replacement that would cover everyone, it worked for election purposes(similar to his SS and Medicare promises), he beat Hillary.

Trump's promises and the FC’s positions are incompatible on this. Results predictable.

That's why they are talking about teaming up with some Dems to replace the FC votes on upcoming bills.

50 posted on 03/27/2017 10:10:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Trump good/Ryan bad!)
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To: dware

For heaven’s sake, get a grip.

Sheesh. This isn’t done yet.

None of us know how this will wind up.


51 posted on 03/27/2017 10:17:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And the collective Freeport response will be?


52 posted on 03/27/2017 10:25:59 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth.


53 posted on 03/27/2017 10:29:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: oldplayer
I'm scratching my head here, trying to understand why anyone would think it's a good idea to pass a bill that has the support of 17% -- yes, SEVENTEEN percent -- of the American public.

FC member Dave Brat posted a great article on his Facebook page over the weekend. He noted that his office had received 800 phone calls about Ryan's AHCA bill -- and 700 of them were from people opposed to it.

If Ted Poe wants to play the role of a "political suicide bomber" the way the Democrats did before their historic losses in 1994 and 2010, then I wish him the best of luck.

54 posted on 03/27/2017 10:33:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: dware
Trump should have pushed the very same repeal that the GOP voted for fifty some times between 2010 and 2016. He didn't.

Better yet -- Trump should have pushed for even one item from the very same seven-point health care reform plan that he posted on his own website in March 2016 when he was running for President.

That seven-point plan has been removed from his website.

55 posted on 03/27/2017 10:36:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: sickoflibs
Trump is not calling for a straight repeal now nor did he run on that.

That is completely and verifiably false. The seven-point health care reform plan released by the Trump campaign in March 2016 included the following:

1. Completely repeal Obamacare, including the individual mandate.

2. Enable consumers to buy insurance across state lines.

3. Exclude all health insurance premiums from taxation, not just employer-sponsored insurance.

4. Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts.

5. Require price transparency from all healthcare providers.

6. Block-grant Medicaid to the states.

7. Allow U.S. consumers to buy drugs from overseas.

This sounds like a great plan. This is what I supported when I voted for Donald Trump.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SEVEN-POINT PLAN?

56 posted on 03/27/2017 10:42:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: lodi90

“Better question is how much the Koch Bros. paid the others to stay and obstruct the agenda of POTUS.”

Now that’s an interesting question, given the fact that Paul Ryan is a helluva lot closer to the Koch Brothers than anyone in the Freedom Caucus. Furthermore, it took more than the 36 members of the Freedom Caucus to kill AHCA and “obstruct” Trump’s agenda, which I thought was to “Repeal and Replace Obamacare”, not water it down a little and blow sunshine up our butts.


57 posted on 03/27/2017 10:44:19 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: lodi90; Trump20162020
The reason is there is little support.

So they were able to pass the full repeal in January of 2016, but today they wouldn't have the support?

58 posted on 03/27/2017 10:48:37 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Helicondelta

Got a little hint for all of you. I am friends with the former MI 1 House Rep. I called him one time to see how it was going while he was in the house of reps. He was at breakfast at the time so we didnt talk long. Told me that in no way can anything be done because they all are being paid by special interests and their congressional pay is just a tiny bit of what they recieve in personal revenue.

NOTHING WILL EVER GET DONE! NOTHING!

He stayed in long enough to collect his retirement and left disgusted. Told me good luck since the people DO NOT mean a dam thing to any of those in that place.

So yell all you want because you and I do not count for ANYTHING and they could give a rats ass if you or I die.


59 posted on 03/27/2017 10:49:17 AM PDT by crz
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To: Responsibility2nd

And then if it does get signed into law, a group of people will start saying it was some strategic 3D chess move.


60 posted on 03/27/2017 10:49:42 AM PDT by joesbucks
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