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Health Care Bill’s Failure: Just Part of the ‘Art of the Deal’
Breitbart ^ | 24 Mar 2017 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 03/24/2017 8:19:08 PM PDT by conservative98

Exactly two weeks ago, this author predicted the defeat of the American Health Care Act — and explained that it was a step towards the final, actual deal that will repeal and replace Obamacare.

President Donald Trump faces three irreconcilable factions: the GOP establishment, conservatives, and Democrats. He must bring them together — to “deliver the goods,” a key rule in The Art of the Deal. But first he must show them “the downside” — and convince them they will fail on their own.

The most difficult faction to deal with is the Republican establishment — not because they are politically strong, but because on policy issues like health care, they are convinced that they have all the answers and that Trump just does not understand.

So he let them make the first move — and he exposed two things about them: first, that they had not come up with a plan that was ready for prime time; second, that they had not done any of the political legwork necessary to sell their plan to voters.

Trump gave Speaker Paul Ryan and the House Republican leadership enough rope to hang themselves. Instead of dictating terms to him, they will now depend on him to save them, politically. They must accept whatever plan he will put forward.

But Trump will not make the next move. He will let the conservatives move first. They are the big winners in the first round — much more so than the Democrats, who are enjoying the spectacle of Republican dysfunction but have no role to play yet.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: artofthedeal; cruz; josixchip; momincombatboots; obamacare; strategy; trump; trumpwinsagain
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To: momincombatboots

Oh for Pete’s sake. The whiner NeverTrumpers here think they won an election.

My co-author Joel is right: big win for. Trump. He acted like he was playing ball, letting idiot RINOS shoot themselves, while showing the Freedom Caucus that while he sympathizes, they don’t have the votes to do anything.

Take your neverTrumperism elsewhere. This is the big time.


21 posted on 03/24/2017 8:57:57 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: conservative98
`The conservatives will proceed with their demand for a full repeal of Obamacare. And then they will face the ire of voters who are deeply unhappy with Obamacare but upset about losing the paltry, expensive health insurance they currently have.

So we'll wait until 2018 - the next chance for voters to weigh in - until we can take the next step?

What's Joel trying to say?

22 posted on 03/24/2017 8:58:07 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: JoSixChip
Why do you think there was no bombshell out today on the wire tapping. It’s because it was pulled at the same time the health care bill was.

It was pulled because they are hearing some closed-door testimony related to Nunes' new information before proceeding with the public testimony.

23 posted on 03/24/2017 8:58:55 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: JoSixChip
Donald Trump was elected president last November, and a big reason for it was that Americans were starting to get notices in late October and early November about outrageous increases in their insurance premiums.

Once they go through a similar disaster later in 2017, a lot of people will be ready to replace their Congressmen -- from both parties -- with piles of dog sh!t. Ten bucks says Obamacare gets completely overhauled in the last two months of 2017.

24 posted on 03/24/2017 8:59:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: conservative98

It’s amazing to watch all the hand-wringers and pearl clutchers rant as if Trump were just another politician doing the same ole politician thing. LOL

Many are the same ones who were swooning over what an outsider, a breath of fresh air he is. (and I think he is)


25 posted on 03/24/2017 9:00:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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To: conservative98

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/study-senate-can-repeal-obamacares-regulations-through-reconciliation-only


26 posted on 03/24/2017 9:03:25 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: Carl Vehse

Yeah its about the same as Moderate Muslim. There are none.


27 posted on 03/24/2017 9:05:37 PM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: Alberta's Child
Ten bucks says Obamacare gets completely overhauled in the last two months of 2017.

Well, I hope you are right and I am wrong.
28 posted on 03/24/2017 9:11:32 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: reasonisfaith

Spot on.


29 posted on 03/24/2017 9:15:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Fedora
It was pulled because they are hearing some closed-door testimony related to Nunes' new information before proceeding with the public testimony.

No offense, but I've seen this dog and pony show before. congress found nothing actionable at the irs, epa, fast & furious, Bengazi, clinton servers and many more obviously criminal destruction of evidence cases. But I'm sure this time will be different/s
30 posted on 03/24/2017 9:15:51 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: conservative98

We’ve been played.... AGAIN.

I can’t wrap my head around the notion of American citizens who think it’s alright for our government to FORCE us to buy insurance!!!

Hugo Chavez, yes.... Castro, yes... but here in the USA?!?!?


31 posted on 03/24/2017 9:19:32 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: bigbob

However when Obama care hits rock bottom, those affected and those who care about those affected will point a finger at Trump.


32 posted on 03/24/2017 9:21:36 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: JoSixChip

Oh good grief. Get a grip.


33 posted on 03/24/2017 9:22:59 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Bogey78O

When a President visits Capital Hill to twist arms, his heart is in it. When he calls Representatives until almost midnight, his heart is in it. When he hosts the various factions to get consensus, his heart is in it.


34 posted on 03/24/2017 9:23:59 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: bigbob
That is not how it likely goes down at all. You exaggerate the risk to Democrats. Republicans are in charge of House, Senate, and White House but have poor party discipline and cannot govern effectively without Democrat votes. Republicans however will be blamed for everything that goes wrong in the country, including a failing Obamacare which they promised to repeal and replace. They just failed that promise today.

Democrats will not vote for a fix to Obamacare unless their party backs it. They have tight party discipline. To get their votes President Trump will have to offer them something like Single Payer, perhaps on an experimental basis in states that choose it. I expect the public at large will like it initially because most people are not so idealogical when it comes to benefits like Social Security and Medicare. If Trump gets Democrat votes, it will be for a Grand Bargain and he will get majorities of both Democrats and Republicans.
35 posted on 03/24/2017 9:30:15 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: JoSixChip
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), House Intelligence Committee chair, announces that he has asked FBI Director James Comey and Adm. Mike Rogers to address the entire committee in a closed session.
36 posted on 03/24/2017 9:32:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Jim Noble
Trump will propose single payer within the month, and the Dems will accept the wall and deportation.

I expect a grand bargain but not that quickly. He will try again one more time to get tax reform with Republican votes. I have little confidence in obstructionists in the Republican party. They have almost no party loyalty and may not realize until it is too late what they lost. OTOH, they make learn today's lesson quickly we can hope and be loyal to our President and take the next deal.
37 posted on 03/24/2017 9:34:38 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

“I was somewhat disconcerted by the President’s seemingly enthusiastic support of the bill”

That’s a tactic to ensure one’s opposition does not become an issue. It’s a “for sake of argument” move, aka “give ‘em enough rope and they’ll hang themselves”. Trump comes out of this without anyone blaming him for opposing the attempt - because he didn’t; the bill failed on its own merits, not from culpable actions on his part.


38 posted on 03/24/2017 9:40:30 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: rovenstinez

You’re on a good roll!

In an ideal world I would envision freedom would mean the ability to do pretty much whatever you define as your “pursuit of happiness” regardless of what the gov’t or anyone else thinks. Problem is, sometimes our pursuit infringes on the pursuits of others, so we have laws that go beyond what the Constitution specifically defines. And that leads to the slippery slope we’re now on...

But if the gov’t is going to have a role, at least let’s hope it becomes one like Rand Paul talks about where it removes barriers that increase costs and encourages competition by getting the hell out of the way.


39 posted on 03/24/2017 9:40:30 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Fedora
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), House Intelligence Committee chair, announces that he has asked FBI Director James Comey and Adm. Mike Rogers to address the entire committee in a closed session.

I was so happy Wednesday when Nunes came forward... it really gave me hope that we could actually get past the stupid "The Russians stole the election for Trump" BS and, as a bonus we would prove what we already know, that Obama spied on Trump.

Today, Nunes weasels out big time... major letdown for sure. Now, he's going to secretly meet with the 2 main suspects in the case. What on earth is he thinking? Does he think they'll just confess? He's going to reveal his source, and the source will no longer be of any use.

This is a really bad turn of events, and will probably give Congress (Dems + Rinos) the courage to impeach Trump. I see this as the end of the republic... it's over now.

40 posted on 03/24/2017 9:44:17 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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