Posted on 03/23/2017 12:47:49 PM PDT by NobleFree
GOP House leaders delayed their planned vote Thursday on a long-promised bill to repeal and replace "Obamacare," in a stinging setback for House Speaker Paul Ryan and President Donald Trump in their first major legislative test.
The decision came after Trump, who ran as a master dealmaker, failed to reach agreement with a bloc of rebellious conservatives. Moderate-leaning Republican lawmakers were also bailing on the legislation, leaving it short of votes. [...]
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For the 10 zillionth time, you’re at liberty to offer up any text you want that will pass the Parliamentarian.
None of you have offered jack.
That’s all you have to do. Get 60 or pass the Parliamentarian.
Want to trash the filibuster for this? Go see if you can find even 10 votes for that.
The GOP is incapable of being the governing party. The GOPe and the so-called conservatives despise Trump even though he won the WH against all odds. In fact, Trump was the only Rep that could have beat Hillary.
The GOP is on a suicide mission. I would advise Trump to move away from the GOP and pursue his own agenda including working with the Dems. Trump has appointed one of the most conservative cabinets ever. He has nominated a conservative judge to SCOTUS. He is rebuilding the military. He is enforcing our immigration laws, something that neither the Bushes or Clinton or Obama did. He has an America first economic and trade policy.
The biggest obstacle to Trump is the GOP, which is under the control of their corporate paymasters similar to the Dems. Trump will be the last Rep president in the WH for generations.
A setback but not devastating. GOP Inc is simply dreadful, no doubt about it. But they can work something out.
Its clear to me - Trump is not a half measures kind of guy.
Trump was the most vocal guy in promising repeal and replace - both happening on the same day, no less.
Not a setback for Americans.
There will be a compromise bill passed. Everyone is having vapors about a mere 24 hour delay in a vote.
No setback to president Trump. We all know it’s the GOP elite swine.
“Reality” is the best proving ground. President Trump knows the difference between a battle and a skirmish, and what can be gleened from each - so should we.
ObamaCare can’t last, but even the moderates ran on repeal replace. You don’t think their opponents will use that against them in primary and general if they do nothing?
They want to trash Trump and I don’t think Trump should be in bed with Ezekiel Emanuel, who met with the POTUS and Paul Ryan at the WH the other day.
Zeke was Mr. Obamacare, roundly trashed here at FR and other places over it, now Emanuel is at the WH and announced this week as a “Fox News Contributor”.
Emanuel is a ‘swamp dweller’ if ever there was one.
Ryan has always been and remains the corrupted, corporatist business as usual Uniparty politician.
Nope. Listened to fox business all afternoon. They’re not on board with the freedom caucus changes.
Really? I never heard that. Why was Trump threatening to primary those who voted against the bill before the changes?
Sorry...was not aware of that.
As he pointed out, a Reconciliation bill cant be used for legislative tweaks, but only for budgetary items.
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Yep, this is what people don’t seem to get. Won’t have votes for any other bill.
How many times since Jan 20th have the “concern trolls” came in here and said Trump has blown it only to see happens in a few days that showed Trump knew exactly what he was doing????
States that want expanded medicaid need to pay for it. All the other states are subsidizing them and putting a huge hole in the budget.
A one day delay is a stinging setback? Geeze journalists these days.
A one day delay is a stinging setback? Geeze journalists these days.
Ryan setback!
Trump needs to get his shit together and quit listening to Ryan!
The captors in this instance are the members of the House Freedom Caucus, the group of roughly three dozen conservative hard-liners who have tried to bend the GOP bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act toward the right and have now coalesced around one major demand that the American Health Care Act, as the GOP bill is titled, must repeal more of the ACAs insurance mandates to truly lower premiums.
That is not a particularly controversial stance among Republicans. Almost all GOP members conservatives, moderates and otherwise would like to undo more off the ACAs essential health benefits, a litany of services that insurance plans are required to cover by law. They include things such as emergency-room visits and hospital stays, but they also include mental health, maternity, preventive care and prescription drug coverage that not all people will necessarily utilize.
Democrats argue that without the requirements, many Americans would be forced to buy bare-bones plans that would leave huge gaps in coverage and expose them to severe financial risk. But most Republicans say that requiring insurers to cover all those benefits is a major factor in driving up premiums and that if consumers want to buy bare-bones plans, they should be able to buy bare-bones plans.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/22/what-the-freedom-caucus-wants-in-the-gop-health-bill-and-why-they-arent-getting-it/?utm_term=.cfcf62529843
My understanding, despite what the article says, is that getting rid of these essential benefits is repelling moderates. I just don't see that being popular with the general population while I can see both sides of the argument.
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