Posted on 03/21/2017 9:34:38 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
House Speaker Paul Ryan agreed Tuesday with PresidentDonald Trump that Republicans risk losing control of Congress if they don't unify this week to force passage of the leading bill to replace key parts of the Affordable Care Act.
Ryan said he disagreed with the notion that there are not enough votes to pass that bill on Thursday.
"Yes, absolutely," Ryan said when asked if he agreed with Trump's personal admonition to GOP House members during a visit to Capitol Hill on Tuesday that "many" of them would lose their seats if they voted against the bill.
"The president of the United States came to us and said, 'We all made a promise to the American people, and we need to keep our promises,'" Ryan, R-Wis., said at a press conference after the session with Trump.
"Everybody running for the Congress and the House, everybody running for the Senate, and the president himself, said to the American people, 'You give us this chance, this responsibility, this opportunity, with a Republican president, with a Republican Senate, a Republican House, and we will repeal and replace Obamacare,'" Ryan said.
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Trump’s working to pass this...
DJT doesn’t owe his election to Ryan and he’s being very poorly advised pushing this ton of ugly for him. I could care less what happens to this bill or to the Republicans who spent more than 7 yrs (LOL!) cobbling it together.
Just like the well seasoned DC establishment puke that he is, Ryan plays the DC boogie man card. More correctly and quite the opposite, if the Ryan care bill is passed and signed by Trump, there will be no more republican party
Trump’s working to pass this... I’m standing with Trump.
I’m also standing with President Trump on this. Pass the bill and do not go back to the minority in Congress because Republicans could not get a deal done among ourselves.
Let’s address this one by one, because amazingly some of this stuff is delusion.
1) Reid faced problems holding 60 votes together when putting Obamacare through. He crafted special clauses and amendments to hold Ben Nelson, the Dem senator from Nebraska in line. This was before Kennedy’s death. He got his 60 by buying off Nelson with projects for Nebraska. The Omaha district is now almost blue (Obama won it in one of his elections).
2) The votes the GOP enacted to repeal Obamacare were, of course, never signed by Obama. They passed because the Dems in the Senate knew it would not be signed and so they didn’t even bother to filibuster. Now, they would. And we have only 52 votes so we can’t cloture that filibuster. We can revote that and have it die in the Senate, but pointless.
3) The theory that you can have the Vice President ignore the Parliamentarian and have all imaginable bills be Reconciliation bills is clearly bizarre and just a way to kill the filibuster. Conservative senators will not support that. Without the filibuster we’d have a single payer healthcare program in the US right now. Only the filibuster prevented a single payer plan from coming out of the 2010 House and getting passed by the Senate by maybe 54 votes. We have the filibuster to thank for preventing that and many other left wing things that might have been rammed through.
4) Trump is right. Obamacare has to be repealed to the extent it can be or those Rust Belt voters who voted for Obama twice and gave us the chance to get what we can will turn their backs on just another array of politicians who lied to them.
5) You really have to go back and read about 2009/10. The far left wing in the House were enraged. Pelosi was monumentally incompetent. She sent a single payer plan to the Senate. She was completely ignorant of the the Senate’s cloture rules and how they could not lose even one senator or drop under 60. Several moderate Dem Senators would not approve a single payer plan. They would be under 60. When her people heard this, THEY RAGED. They couldn’t get what they wanted. They could only get the lesser Obamacare program, which they thought was STUPID. They could not believe they couldn’t have single payer NHS.
6) They voted, they passed Obamacare, and all those hardcore leftists circled the wagons around it. They defended it against all attacks. Whatever can get passed this year will be similarly defended by the far right wing types.
That's it, folks. If they can't accomplish that in Phase 1, then the whole exercise is just a waste of time. And YES -- there will be a bunch of Republicans in Congress thrown out of office in 2018 ... probably to end up working as lobbyists for health insurers, pharmaceutical firms, etc.
I look for the GOP to lose seats if Ryancare passes. It would be better to let Obamacare to die a natural death.
Oh I forgot that in my list.
Obamacare won’t just die. It’s funded in the budget. It’s on autopilot. Defunding it requires 60 votes. We Don’t Have 60. We are less popular than the Dems were in 2009/2010. They had 60.
The cross your arms across your chest and don’t govern and let things die crowd are ignorant of how the budget works. You would never get a purely defunding bill through that singles that program out. The Dems can filibuster such a thing.
Besides which you have Susan Collins, Flake (who is up in 2018), the Alaska lady senator . . . you can’t get even 50 for such a defunding process. They will only vote for a repeal AND REPLACE.
Y’all have to get educated on the numbers of 2009. THEY HAD 60. We don’t.
What’s the point of a majority RINO congress? At least with Democrats in charge you know whose side they are on.
In other words, Obamacare forces people to buy something they can't afford ... and that fewer and fewer companies are even willing to sell.
Take all the B.S. about funding and budgets and cloture votes and reconciliation and throw it out the window. Either the Republicans in the House and Senate will pass a bill that saves people money in 2018, or they'll be seen as miserable failures. It's really that simple.
"It's the economy, stupid."
Get rid of Ryan.
Real message....Ryans position is at risk
I agree that repeal alone won’t happen. If left alone, it will go broke and once the states are on the hook for the Medicaid expansion that will be over.
There is merit in that perspective.
“People vote their pocketbook.”
But remember it’s all delayed. It certainly won’t be functioning by 2018. The latest version won’t force current Obamacare people out of it til 2020.
So punishment for a bad plan isn’t immediate. There would be time to improve.
I suspect that’s Mr.Ryan’s goal.
The Republicans had 8 years to get this right. Instead, we have another pile of manure.
It is inexcusable.
Ryno care is not repeal or replace.
That happened the first time we tried to primary Eric Cantor in 2012. We got him out in 2014.
Yep. Let’s start with Lyin’ Ryan and Kevin Mccarthy.
You may have missed my entire point.
There can't be a delay. People don't care about tax credits or Phase 2 or Phase 3 of this plan. They don't give a sh!t about 2020. They have to see reductions in their out-of-pocket expenditures when their 2018 renewals come out, or there will be no GOP Congress left in 2018.
I thought I was losing my mind with this simplistic view, but then I happened to have Hannity's show on the radio in the car a short while ago and he had a Republican member of the Freedom Caucus WHO WAS SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING.
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