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More Evidence Surfaces – NSA Director Mike Rogers Did Not Aid Obama’s Surveillance Scheme
The Conservative Tree House ^ | March 14, 2017 | sundance

Posted on 03/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Every time I see an interview discussing 2016 surveillance of the Trump Campaign and candidate Donald Trump I keep going back to that November 17th, 2016, Trump Tower visit by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

No-one in the Obama chain-of-command knew Director Rogers was going to meet with President-Elect Trump; Rogers did it entirely on his own impetus, and James Clapper was furious in the aftermath.

Additionally, Admiral Mike Rogers is still running the NSA. President Trump has made no effort to replace him.

“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA. He didn’t use the CIA. He didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That’s the initials for the British spying agency. They have 24/7 access to the NSA database. So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving president-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it, and there’s no American fingerprints on this.”
~ Judge Andrew Napolitano

If what Napolitano’s sources are saying is true, then it’s even more confirmation of our hunch in an earlier timeline.  NSA Director Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in, or give aid in relationship to, the surveillance scheme.  Consequently, the Obama White House worked around Rogers with another source, British Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ), for the same information.

In 2013 Edward Snowden released information the UK GCHQ was being party funded by the U.S. NSA to the tune of over £100 million:

[…]  The funding underlines the closeness of the relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalent, the National Security Agency. But it will raise fears about the hold Washington has over the UK’s biggest and most important intelligence agency, and whether Britain’s dependency on the NSA has become too great. (link)

January 23rd, 2017, three days after President Trump’s inauguration, the head of the U.K. General Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) unexpectedly resigns:

Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.

GCHQ would only say that Mr Hannigan had left his post for “personal reasons” and that he was not sacked or subject to disciplinary proceedings.  (link)

[Previously] In hindsight, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers may have notified Team Trump of Obama’s Intelligence Community (James Clapper and John Brennan) involvement or engagement in surveillance activity.

As you look at the dates below, it’s important to note that NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers would be keenly aware of both the June FISA request – Denied, and the October request – Granted.  Pay specific attention to the October request. “October”!.

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June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons.

Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

♦ On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held.  Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.

NSA Director Rogers participates in session at Intelligence and National Security Summit in Washington♦ On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.

♦ On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:

The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.

The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

[…]  In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters. (link)

Remember, historically The Washington Post is the preferred outlet for the CIA and Intelligence Community within Deep State to dump their “leaks” and stories.  [The State Department “leaks” to CNN for the same purposes.]

♦ On Saturday November 19th Reuters reported on the WaPo Story and additional pressure by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and DNI James Clapper to fire Mike Rogers.

[…]  The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit.  (link)

If you just look at the timeline of activity a picture emerges:

  1. The Intelligence Community -at the direction of President Obama- made a request to a FISA court for the NSA to spy on Donald Trump in June 2016.  It was denied.
  2. In October the Intelligence Community (NSA) -at the direction of President Obama- made a second request to the FISA court for the NSA to spy on activity around Donald Trump.  It was approved.
  3. At around the same time (October), as the second request, (Def Sec) Ash Carter and (DNI) James Clapper tell President Obama to dump NSA Director Mike Rogers.
  4. A week after the election, Director Mike Rogers makes a trip to Trump Tower without telling his superior, James Clapper….
  5. …Which immediately brings about new calls (November media leaks to WaPo) for President Obama to dump Admiral Mike Rogers.

Occam’s Razor.  NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in the spying scheme (Clapper, Brennan, Etc.), which was the baseline for President Obama’s post presidency efforts to undermine Donald Trump and keep Trump from digging into the Obama labyrinth underlying his remaining loyalists.  After the October spying or surveillance operation went into effect, Rogers unknown loyalty was a risk to the Obama objective.  10 Days after the election Rogers travels to President-Elect Trump without notifying those who were involved in the intel scheme.

Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower, and then notify the President-elect he was being monitored by a group representing President Obama’s interests?

….Seems likely.



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To: dp0622

Is Obama still outraged that Donald would DARE tweet allegations that he had him wiretapped? Are he and Trump still best buds? Are the LSM still calling Donald a liar, and urging the 25th Amendment?


61 posted on 03/15/2017 1:20:36 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Amazing how much more investigative journalism is here on free republic than anywhere else in the media world.


62 posted on 03/15/2017 2:40:47 AM PDT by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I wonder whom benefits more from the NSA / GCHQ relationship? I’ll go out on a limb and say that would be GCHQ and yet Odunga gave them 100 million Tax Payers dollars. Pay for Play?


63 posted on 03/15/2017 3:37:45 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Bshaw
Though, I would grant her the option of firing squad.

Nah, she should go out like a Buddhist monk. On fire with a good dose of gasoline.

64 posted on 03/15/2017 3:38:08 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Texas Fossil

Let us hope that Adm. Rogers brought along some physical evidence — like a memo — requesting GHCQ to spy on Trump and/or his campaign staff. Because at the end-of-the-day this could be hearsay with no underlying proof.


65 posted on 03/15/2017 3:53:01 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Texas Fossil

0 should be retroactively impeached and tried for subversion.


66 posted on 03/15/2017 3:55:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Texas Fossil
Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower


67 posted on 03/15/2017 3:57:17 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: dgbrown

Guys like Rogers have a dead man’s switch.


68 posted on 03/15/2017 3:58:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Tallguy

I think judge Nap may have stumbled onto something here. I just wish his track record was better

Did rogers ask to meet with Donald or did trump ask for his visit. If the former it was to give a heads up. If the latter Donald may have had suspicions he wanted confirmed.

Given how the ohola White but operated through czars this monitoring may have been a closed compartment “plumbers” style op using the brits for the leg work and kept out of the total Intel apparatus. I doubt this was done to help Hitlery. It was done to defeat trump to keep ohola’ s rep in tact.


69 posted on 03/15/2017 4:05:30 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: jonrick46

” Answer: The polls were fake to make the “stupid” Americans think she was a winner. The inside polls knew the situation”

Yep Amazing how many principles some Americans will toss away just to I say they voted for the winner. The whole MSM narrative of Cancklebeasts being well ahead was to try to convince the LIV to vote for Cancklebeasts for no other reason than that. There is no way all the Blue States that went to Donald were not showing up in the internal polls although they may have broke for him fairly late in the game. Remember Cancklebeast canceled her “Victory” fireworks show three days before the election.


70 posted on 03/15/2017 4:09:44 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: dragnet2

These mookabookers and a whole passel of their assistants belong in prison or the gallows.
We’ll see IF anyone has the nads to persue.


71 posted on 03/15/2017 4:21:57 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Texas Fossil; ExTexasRedhead; Jet Jaguar
I wonder how much of the truth will come out.

For instance, Human Abedin was not only Hillary Rodham-Clinton's sexual plaything, she was also a Saudi agent who worked directly for the Muslim Brotherhood. Abedin (illegally of course) passed along highly classified intelligence to the Muslim Brotherhood, go in turn gave it to Islamic terrorist organizations, including ISIS murderers and rapists. And Obama knew all about this, and he had Muslim Brotherhood operators working directly for him in the Old Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House.



72 posted on 03/15/2017 4:30:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: samadams2000

he has to tiptoe around what is and what is not classified information


73 posted on 03/15/2017 4:31:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RedWulf
Everyone else just repeats what’s spoon fed to them.

Or, they just make sh*t up!

74 posted on 03/15/2017 5:03:34 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Texas Fossil
That is OK, President Trump is the renown Deal Maker.

He will have all of these people cowering in the corner at his expertise at deal making by the end of the month.

Just wait and see, this shadow government will crawl out and be exposed for what it is, the people who are NOT Deal Makers.

75 posted on 03/15/2017 5:09:36 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: A CA Guy

Exactly what I was thinking. British PM, Theresa May, is conservative, a kindred spirit of Trump. She should be able to offer an assist here


76 posted on 03/15/2017 5:19:04 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: Bshaw

:: What people fail to realize is that the Democrats have used the government and its apparatus, as their own tools for rewarding, punishing, investigating, limiting, persecuting whomever they see fit ::

We also must be aware that much of this “apparatus” is now being used to toss stumbling blocks in front of the juggernaut that is Trump45; to slow him down by distracting him from his vision of an efficient government.

He continues to plow ahead with his promised agenda, tho.


77 posted on 03/15/2017 5:22:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: eartick

I don’t believe they will voluntarily crawl out of the corner of the dark basement they inhabit any more than Saddam crawled out on his own from his spider’s lair.

Cockroaches like dark, damp, smelly places.


78 posted on 03/15/2017 5:39:06 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SkyPilot
Yes. Those were the ones that were in the daylight. How many were embedded within the CIA or Foggy Bottom?
79 posted on 03/15/2017 5:41:52 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: nikos1121

The people on FR seek the truth (except for a very few trolls). The MSM only follows the money.

They are no longer the Press, they are Press-titutes.


80 posted on 03/15/2017 5:44:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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