Posted on 02/26/2017 11:46:56 AM PST by Kaslin
We keep hearing rumors about this even though it’s very hard to track down specifics. Word on the street is that various groups, including churches, are preparing to assist illegal immigrants by either providing them with shelter or facilitating their plans to flee to Canada. Without more documentation it’s hard to be entirely sure, but with this much smoke it’s certainly possible that there is at least a bit of fire underneath. Another report has emerged on this, although it’s from Buzzfeed, so take it with whatever size grain of salt you feel appropriate.
Churches across the US are fighting back against the Trump administration’s mandate to ramp up deportations with new sanctuary practices of their own, using private homes in their congregations as shelter and potentially creating a modern-day underground railroad to ferry undocumented immigrants from house to house or into Canada.
Church leaders from California to Illinois and New York told BuzzFeed News they’re willing to take their sanctuary operations for undocumented immigrants underground should federal immigration authorities, emboldened by Trump’s recent directives to take a harder line on deportations, ignore precedent and raid their campuses.
If we take these claims at face value for the moment there are two separate issues to be considered. One is the headline grabbing idea of an underground railroad being in the works. Now, technically this is illegal (more on that in a moment) but the recently popular idea of prosecutorial discretion would seem to allow law enforcement to turn something of a blind eye to various activities when resources are scarce or enforcement doesn’t serve the greater interest. Might this be such an area? I mean, if these are people who are actively helping illegal aliens to leave the country, are we really going to be all that enthusiastic about stopping them?
But as I said, that’s only half of the story being reported. It is specifically noted above that some of these churches are partnering with private citizens to provide “safe houses” to shield such illegal aliens from law enforcement. That’s not just a bad idea, but actually a felony which carries serious penalties. Let’s take a look at the appropriate statute:
8 U.S. Code § 1324 – Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
(a) Criminal penalties (1) (A) Any person who—
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation; … shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
(B) A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs— (ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
Immigration and Border Patrol forces are being beefed up in the coming months and years. The people considering taking such a course of action should be made aware that not only might their “guests” wind up being deported anyway, but they themselves might be heading off for an extended vacation at the Crowbar Motel.
The one other question I would address today is where these people have been for the past eight years. Yes, it’s true that President Trump is talking a very serious game in terms of deportations, but thus far it’s still all in the planning stages. Isn’t there something just a tad bit hypocritical about rushing to the barricades right now when you had so many opportunities to do it in the recent past? Did none of these heroes notice the deportation record under President Barack Obama? (ABC News)
According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president’s administration in history.
In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.
Barack Obama doesn’t just hold the record for deportations, but actually deported more illegal aliens than all the presidents of the 20th century combined. The man may not have accomplished too much I approved of during his eight years in office but at least he had that going for him. Where was all this anger then? Why were there no long lines forming to break federal law and help out the millions who were facing deportation when there was a Democrat in office?
So many questions. So few answers. But hey, guys… it’s all in the game.
Nonsense. As with everything else he did, he lied about that too.
If you believe he actually did that then you are a true blue idiot.
Dissembling and diversion. I said I was fine with an OUTFLOW URR to Canada. It is up to THEM to deal with it given their generous nature (historic reputation which WILL change, BTW).
It isn’t my problem nor is it a question about what “I’m fine with” in the reverse. Sure I’d like to catch their butts in transit, but I’ll take a speedy exit out. Stay on topic
A steaming heap of BS. Obama has deported less than any President since Nixon.
New Statistics: Enforcement Continues Decline in 2016
The great majority of deportations (72%) completed by ICE are border crossers who were initially arrested by the Border Patrol or port of entry officers and turned over to ICE for deportation. Most of the rest are aliens who were arrested in the interior, with only a handful of cases (less than 1%) initiated by other agencies.
In previous administrations, border crossers did not make up a large share of deportations credited to ICE. The inclusion of hundreds of thousands of border cases in ICE deportation totals became the basis for deceptive Obama administration claims of “record deportations” beginning in 2012, when in fact, deportations resulting from interior enforcement were dropping sharply. Exposure of this statistical manipulation by the Center led then-incoming DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson to acknowledge that Obama administration deportation statistics are not comparable with those of previous administrations.
Interior deportations fell to 46,511 to date, according to the report, putting ICE on pace to complete 63,700 this year. This is approximately one-fourth the number of interior deportations completed by ICE in 2009, the first year of the Obama administration.
ICE Deportations Hit 10-Year Low
Obama Administration Has the Lowest Rate of Deportations Since the Nixon Administration
Since Obama took office, the groups opposed to immigration enforcement have relentlessly leaned on their allies in the administration to ease up on deportations. At the same time, aware of public and congressional expectations that the laws be enforced, the administration has tried to create the impression that enforcement has been robust under Obama. The administration and its allies frequently point out that more than two million removals have occurred since 2009, an accomplishment that they characterize as record-breaking.
But counting only removals as deportations presents a misleading picture of the level of enforcement. Removals are just one form of the deportation process that can be executed by any of the three DHS enforcement agencies (ICE, Border Patrol, and CBP officers at the port of entry). All three enforcement agencies also can process deportable aliens as a return (sometimes known as voluntary return), which is a lesser consequence. In general most border deportations are processed as returns and most interior deportations are processed as removals, but in recent years many more aliens apprehended at the border have been turned over to ICE for a brief period of detention and then removed in recent years, in a departure from the traditional "you catch 'em, you clean 'em" policies, where the arresting agency typically handles the deportation process. In addition, illegal border-crossers who have been removed previously, or who are prosecuted for smuggling or other crimes are turned over to ICE for processing. Under these scenarios, the Border Patrol will count the case as an apprehension, which is their marquee enforcement metric, and ICE will count the case as a deportation.
Under Obama, a much larger number of Border Patrol cases were transferred to ICE for processing than had been the case under prior administrations. In 2008, the last year of the George W. Bush administration, just over a third of deportations credited to ICE were border cases, and two-thirds were interior cases. In 2016, more than two-thirds of the deportation cases credited to ICE were border cases, and less than a third were interior cases.
Thus a comparison of removal numbers alone is not meaningful or sufficient to evaluate the relative deportation performance of the Obama administration. Focusing only on removal numbers produces an inflated picture of enforcement.
For a more accurate apples-to-apples comparison of enforcement from year to year, it is more appropriate to examine interior deportations and border deportations as separate and distinct types of enforcement. As noted above, the interior deportations have declined considerably since 2010. Neither the Border Patrol nor CBP publishes the total number of deportations executed, and many of the cases are transferred to ICE, so year-by-year comparisons of border deportations alone are impossible using open source statistics. However, it is possible to compare total deportations executed by all immigration agencies using figures on removals and returns that have been tracked by the immigration agency since 1892, and now appear in the Yearbook.
The Obama administration has completed a total of 5.3 million deportations, counting both interior and border cases. That is a little over half the number of deportations under the George W. Bush administration. The true record for deportations was set by the Clinton administration, which completed 12.3 million deportations.
As Table 1 shows, the Obama administration completed the lowest average annual number of deportations since the Nixon administration. Notably, the number of border-crossers (and probably the number of recidivists) is much less now than was the case under the Bush and Clinton administrations, and that is probably the main reason total deportations are lower; but the Obama administration simply could explain that, rather than try to artificially manufacture a record by cherry-picking one type of deportation to count.
8 U.S. Code § 1324 – Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
WTH? It’s not Canada dumping them here, it’s the other way around
Did you miss the memo how “welcoming” Trudeau said they’d be, for any undesirables and from no matter from where?
Is there a GoFundMe to help this great service to America get off the ground?
“isn’t that slavery”?
Yes, it is exactly enslavement of these immigrants.
Well, unless the church or individual is is operating a private non-profit or for-profit prison. That might be legal.
Who cares if they go to Canada, let em go. Canada wants them, we don’t, the matter is settled.
I bet the real reason is to receive government funding for the Unaccompanied Alien Child Program. I looked up the amounts that Catholic Charities, Southwest Key Program (run by La Raza members), and Baptist Family Services awhile back and the amounts were staggeringand increased exponentionally under Obama's watch. The churches would have absolutely no problems keeping themselves afloat with the extremely high dollar amounts they were receiving.
In other words, just like politicians, I don't think the "churches' are being sincere in their concerns for the illegal immigrants. Not at all.
Obviously their souls are bought and paid for, either by Satan or Soros.
Let’s get E-Verify going for both employment and ALL government benefits and we’ll turn that trickle into a flood.
Get Canada and Mexico to pay for some special, direct AMTRAK trains.
Trudeau, for all his blather, hasn’t changed the laws, and they are much less welcoming.
I agree, if they are leaving the USA, don’t stop them, and it doesn’t cost the taxpayer, either !
I remember all the hogwash about “you can’t round up 20 million people, and deport them”. No, but you can make the conditions such, that they deport themselves; they sure found a way to get here, without the INS.
When the economy tanked, in 2009, friends in my old Connecticut hometown were rife with stories of all the Brazilians who went back where they came from, because it became easier to prosper, down there, than up here.
HIP HIP HOORAY ! ! !
So if the parallel for protecting illegal aliens is the underground railroad then it follows that illegal aliens are the modern parallel of the slaves. It also follows that the plantation owners have a vested interest in keeping their slaves on the plantation. Who wants to keep the illegals here again?
So be it. Once that border’s crossed, not our problem, Mon.
I’m not certain that helping people leave the country so that they don’t have to leave the country is an entirely sound plan, but what the hell do I know?
Sounds like they expect any crackdown to be short-lived. Then will slip back across the Canadian border, which will be more porous than the Mexico border.
I think there is a flaw in their basic plan. Who is going to support these people? How many of them can they support?
I think this is virtue signalling by the SJW’s as much as anything.
They all want to be courageous and moral.
Turds.
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