Posted on 02/18/2017 5:54:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Within the next 10 years, there's a good chance that 50% of the jobs today will be gone.And no one in Washington is talking about what to do to deal with this likelihood.
The cause of this coming massive economic upheaval is artificial intelligence -- a catch-all term that encompasses everything from driverless cars to sex robots. Its impact is already being felt on the factory floor, where smart machines are making American manufacturers more competitive, more efficient, and more profitable, but without the mass number of workers that used to be the backbone of the American economy.
Donald Trump says he can change all this, that he can bring these jobs back from overseas, or prevent illegal immigrants from taking them. And the president isn't alone. The Democratic Party and the AFL-CIO still believe that a manufacturing Renaissance is possible.
But this is a fantasy. Those jobs didn't go overseas. They're forever gone as super-intelligent machines are making human beings superfluous.
Unnoticed by most is that this Renaissance is already well underway. The problem for Trump, the Democrats, and the unions is that the new plants are employing 90% fewer workers than they would have a generation ago. As manufacturing jobs disappear, manufacturing output is soaring. We are making more things in the U.S. than in any other country except China. And we're doing it with a lot fewer workers.
A hugely significant meeting took place in Asilomar, California, in January at which the top experts in the field of artificial intelligence gathered to discuss ethical guidelines to prevent some super-intelligent machine from running amok and threatening civilization. This is a serious question that is being debated by dead serious people who know the potential of AI for good -- and evil.
But the attendees were far more worried about the impact of AI on the workforce and what it means for the future of the economy.
In the US, the number of manufacturing jobs peaked in 1979 and has steadily decreased ever since. At the same time, manufacturing has steadily increased, with the US now producing more goods than any other country but China. Machines arent just taking the place of humans on the assembly line. Theyre doing a better job. And all this before the coming wave of AI upends so many other sectors of the economy. I am less concerned with Terminator scenarios, MIT economist Andrew McAfee said on the first day at Asilomar. If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do.
McAfee pointed to newly collected data that shows a sharp decline in middle class job creation since the 1980s. Now, most new jobs are either at the very low end of the pay scale or the very high end. He also argued that these trends are reversible, that improved education and a greater emphasis on entrepreneurship and research can help feed new engines of growth, that economies have overcome the rise of new technologies before. But after his talk, in the hallways at Asilomar, so many of the researchers warned him that the coming revolution in AI would eliminate far more jobs far more quickly than he expected.
Indeed, the rise of driverless cars and trucks is just a start. New AI techniques are poised to reinvent everything from manufacturing to healthcare to Wall Street. In other words, its not just blue-collar jobs that AI endangers. Several of the rock stars in this field came up to me and said: I think youre low-balling this one. I think you are underestimating the rate of change,' McAfee says.
That threat has many thinkers entertaining the idea of a universal basic income, a guaranteed living wage paid by the government to anyone left out of the workforce. But McAfee believes this would only make the problem worse, because it would eliminate the incentive for entrepreneurship and other activity that could create new jobs as the old ones fade away. Others question the psychological effects of the idea. A universal basic income doesnt give people dignity or protect them from boredom and vice, Etzioni says.
I morn the lost type writer manufacturing jobs. The makers of ribbons alone who lost their jobs makes me weep.
Then there are the millions of underpaid though employed women who beavered everyday creating the reams and reams of memos and invoices and statements and letters. Their jobs are all gone.
Tragedy struck the home of cassandra white when she was laid off from her typist job. She was the sole support of her aging father who suffered from mental illness after he lost his job as buggy whip maker. It's just terrible, terrible, terrible
Globalist traitors try to make protectionists into Luddites. Don't let them.
Balderdacious drivel emanating from under a rock
We want our factories back, automated or not, because even an automated factory produces good jobs.
Someone that truly believes in automation would be a staunch protectionist. The higher wages using American labor would hasten the automation process. Moving production to the third world only slows that process down.
Instead of just spewing hate like an immature child try to take apart my argument like an adult.
It is hard to discuss trade, economics and automation with radical Free Traitors because like their open border cousins who disingenuously link immigration and illegal aliens they link automation and offshoring together which are totally different things.
There is also the matter of the recent talk about a basic living wage for everyone, and a cashless society. These are hoped for means of preventing the population from revolting while we are culled via engineered plagues, wars, and muzz slime terrorism. Those outside the system will be starved. Agenda 21 - ain't it grand?
In the end it will be a high tech civilization of a half billion people modeled on ancient Egypt, ruled by a small class of self anointed godheads, and a vast underclass of artisans and useful idiots - not different than the current democrat party.
“You are looking a long, long way out...”
Could be but I have seen how quickly things can change. I was born in 1944 and am already well beyond the average life expectancy forecast for me at birth but I may live to see 2044 yet. I live within fifty miles of my birthplace but it is like living on a different planet now. My own life in some respects may be close to my early life but in other ways is like a science fiction story from that period. Just how long is a long, long way out?
Everything old is new again. Then they will come out with solid rubber tires, like the ones I saw when I was a kid (During WWII, EVERY kind of vehicle was used. I saw ca 1920s delivery vans in my NYC neighborhood.)
I get your point though.
“There was a massive inflow of technology, for example, displacing hordes of secretaries and clerks, in the 1980s. But under the Reagan revolution that became Morning in America, with greed decried by the left as more and more people became wealthy and saw their middle-class standards of living finally rise again.”
I actually took advantage of this era, when data entry operators were disappearing. I jumped into a system operator job, then became a database administrator. I’ve been in IT for decades. Technology has been my bread and butter.
I am concerned about the unintended consequences. There must be a point of diminishing returns, especially for the people on the lower end of the economic spectrum. They are the target in the beginning, but everything else is too. People need to feel valued, to have meaningful or worthwhile employment, and aoptions to better themselves. Replacing them with robots on a grand scale will have repercussions. The robot visionaries don’t seem to give a damn about that aspect. I’d just like to see them addressing that issue as well.
Even a basic wage won’t solve the biggest problem, billions of idle hands.
And for all that change, we didn’t run out of jobs—as long as we didn’t have government holding the country back!
Ha ha!
Higher levels of technology is what has brought us more return on our labor and led to our requiring higher levels of skill, while reducing the number of boringly repetitive positions.
Again, I am worried about technology, but very much more in the big brother surveillance-state sense than in our running out of need for people to fill other jobs — and making us vulnerable to attack or other crisis. That IMO is where the unintended consequences are looking horrific.
Oh, and I am also concerned about the increasing number of low-skill illegals we’ve allowed to come here and now too many are arguing to allow to stay.
Get them out and we’ll have a much better society all around.
I am hoping that a return to a sensible form of government will solve a lot of problems. What we have had for a long, long time and especially for the past eight years is simply a government hell bent on destroying all the best things about this country in the name of saving it.
Bannon and Miller and Trump have King Barack Augeas’s stables to clean out at this point.
Godspeed to them.
“Unless corporations can find a way to pay robots the $0.50 cents an hour wage they want, and then let the robots buy things, their little pipe dream wont work.”
QUOTABLE!!!
Not to mention the OTHER little inconvenient facts about the unchecked use of automation that people seem to be missing - like the fact that robots don’t have children or pay taxes. Even putting aside the very real threat of revolution when the masses have their backs to the wall with literally no way to pay rent and get groceries AND the social issues that will come with mass idleness, where the heck are you going to source your taxes from and get the next wave of soldiers if a third of your populace literally cannot get a job and have given up on raising families?
And while you’re thinking about that you should also keep in mind that the native white birthrate (the 1st-rate source of soldiers and innovators, howl ‘racist’ all you damn want) has already been in a screaming nosedive for generations. The situation is already very serious.
I agree it is.
I wish folks would wake up on their own and start popping them out!
Thanks for the comments.
My daughter’s idiot math teacher was talking about over-population. Then he started ranting about how most populations in the world are getting older and who is going to support those older people? (Before I could even mention it my daughter pointed out his lousy logic!)
She did say that he said that Africa is having a huge increase in the number of kids. So I came up with the solution: take the kids from Africa and give them to families in other parts of the world. Make it a U.N. mandated thing or something. Hey - if “redistribution” of wealth is okay, we can have redistribution of kids.
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