Posted on 02/11/2017 7:37:12 AM PST by HokieMom
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After enjoying the inauguration and our nation's peaceful transfer of power, we attempted to make our way to a parade viewing party on Pennsylvania Avenue. What should have been a painless trip across town quickly became a prime example of how unhinged the far left has become. Along the way we witnessed smashed cars, broken windows, a fire, and were called names and threatened simply because of how we were dressed; so much for tolerance and acceptance.
After arriving at the parade, we had the pleasure of running into former Massachusetts Republican Governor William Weld. Governor Weld, much like current Governor Charlie Baker, was extremely effective and amazingly popular in deep blue Massachusetts.
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Governor Weld said that Johnson-Weld internal polling showed that 75 percent of their voters would have voted for Donald Trump had they not been in the race. The Libertarian ticket received nearly 4.5 million total votes in the election. It makes logical sense that three fourths of these voters, drawn to a ticket of former, successful two-term Republican Governors, would be more attracted to limited government advocates promising change from the last eight years. In addition, they saw absolutely no appetite amongst their limited government voters to support the Clinton-Kaine ticket.
In short, if the Johnson-Weld ticket had not run, Donald Trump would have won the popular vote. Given the Green Party's anemic showing and its great reluctance to support Hillary Clinton under any circumstance, it is very likely Donald Trump would have still won the popular vote even if the Green Party failed to field a candidate. In addition, Mr. Trump would have rolled up an even larger Electoral College margin, as the additional votes would have likely flipped New Hampshire, Maine, and Minnesota to his column.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
"The math behind liberals’ gripes is pretty obvious, even if the logic behind it isn’t. Overall, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump managed to win the White House by scoring surprise wins in states where he wasn’t expected to win. In the states with the closest results, votes from Libertarians would have more than put Clinton over the top if they had gone for her instead.In Michigan, where Trump won by fewer than 14,000 votes, Johnson got more than 172,000 votes. If even a fraction of those voters had gone for Clinton instead, she would have won. The same was true next door in Wisconsin, where Johnson won more than 105,000 votes, more than enough to close Clinton’s 37,000-vote gap with Trump.
In an Election Night shocker, Trump won the Pennsylvania contest by about 68,000 votes, about half of the 142,000 votes Johnson and Weld won. But Shawn Patrick House, the state chairman of the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania, said Pennsylvania Libertarians wouldn’t have voted for the nominees of either major party, who went out of their way to keep Johnson and Weld out of the presidential and vice-presidential debates. “They don’t deserve our votes,” he said. “This is a vote of no consent. By not voting for Republicans or Democrats, we don’t consent to what’s going on.”
Milarky.
During the election, Beck was spiteful and vengeful towards Trump and his followers. Or maybe he was only kidding. Only joking? I listened to him long enough to know that it was time to move on and tune out.
On one particular day, he WAS rambling on about voting for Hillary. And it was clear to me while listening to him that his anger towards Trump made him consider the possibility.
BS like the “the thought crossed my mind.” And without an emphatic no, it IS an endorsement.
Let me be clear — I would NEVER vote for Hillary and to suggest or even hint that I might is ridiculous. No so for Beck.
Both of these areas will see a significant decrease in population once E-Verify is implemented.
Oh brother. History has recorded Trump losing the popular vote. And that is the way it is. Grow up.
Virginia is not a swing state anymore. Clinton won by a substantial margin. If Trump can’t take Virginia in this environment, no one really can. Of course, Northern Virginia is the difference, with Trump winning only 28% of the vote here. Trump won over 80% of the vote in many southwest counties, but those counties just don’t have many votes.
What an inane comment. History will show Trump lost the popular vote and that is the way it is. Grow up.
And more people voted against Trump than voted against Hillary.
Some people are comforted by lies eg popular vote.
Some people spread lies.
Some people are a Democrat troll.
lol
I voted for Donald Trump, and was never a “NeverTrumper”. I’m a conservative Christian that realized we had no candidate in this race, and he was the best option. I’ve also never seen a race with so few lawn signs or bumper stickers, and I directly blame this on the candidates themselves; in Trump’s case, his vulgarity made it difficult to publicly support him.
I’m glad he won; I only expect economic gains, no victories in the culture war.
You state: “I’m a conservative Christian and realized we had no candidate in this race, he was the best option”
Not sure who you would have considered an acceptable for a “we have a candidate in this race.” However, I am sorry you feel “we had no candidate in this race” I am a conservative Christian*, too, and I could barely wait to vote for Trump—would have crawled across broken glass to do so...
As a candidate, President Trump** promised to repeal the Johnson Amendment!!, promote school choice, and eradicate Islamic terrorism—which has killed millions of Christians in the Middle East as they have no tolerance for any religion other than Islam. As President of 3 weeks, he is trying to revise immigration standards so these nut cases are not allowed in our country to kill us. With all due respect, I just don’t understand how any Christian could not feel he is their candidate...No other candidate has ever stood up for Christians the way President Trump has and is.
You state that you have never seen a race with so few bumper stickers and yard signs. That is your measure? Well, I believe your assumption may be incorrect.
I see you are from New Jersey—a state that went to Hillary with 55% to President Trump’s 42%. Why would you see lots of yard signs? Trump was not spending money in NJ just like no money spent in IL—so there were no signs because New Jersey (like IL) was not a battleground or swing state; I know because I called about getting a sign for myself and others here in IL and that is what I was told. IL had no mechanism for delivering signs—only one campaign office in the state—down in Champaign, and I would have had to drive 4 hours to get a sign.
So for people in IL as I suspect in NJ, it was the fact that we could not get signs or were afraid of Black Lives Matter inspired violence. I had my car surrounded by 75-100 BLM Move-on.org types—they pounded on my windows too when I went to a Trump rally—and I had no Trump signs or bumper stickers. Can you imagine what would of happened if I had??? Luckily the Police showed up to disperse the group of thugs...Your perceived “vulgarity” as you put it had nothing to do with fear of public support. I was afraid for my safety.
So, as I said, I guess we agree to disagree, but I wanted you to know why another Freeper, who considers themself a conservative Christian stood 100% behind Trump and because he won, has much more hope for our country—both economic and cultural.
Fregards.
*Oh, and he actually has made a much deeper commitment to God, but that is discussion for another thread, and it was discussed on several here during the campaign—perhaps you missed that he was led to Christ.
**I have no problem saying “President Trump”
I’m glad PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump is here instead of Hillary; no doubt about that. As far as lawns signs, NJ had few for EITHER candidate in my area.
I can’t ignore his three marriages or lack of interest in junking “gay marriage”; he didn’t lie about them (he confessed to his own shortcomings as a husband, which I thought was very humble of him), I believe he just doesn’t care either way as far as “gay marriage” is concerned. I don’t know what a conservative Christian FReeper should expect from Trump; since he hasn’t committed to anything, I guess anything would be a pleasant surprise.
This is the kind of thinking that gave us uniparty control of government for decades. Instead let’s try to figure out how it is that at least ~60MM American voters embrace an anti-Christian, socialist worldview. The government school system is the factory for this kind of worldview, and we are losing a war of attrition. We don’t have much time.
“Libertarians seem to be horrified by the way the left behaves on Trump and his voters. I hope they take stock of that next time they say “vote your conscious”...”
How about next time Republicans nominate a Dole, Bush, Romney or McCain, we get what we deserve.
It isn’t just libertarians BTW. Paleoconservatives like me have been routinely trashed in conservative forums everywhere, because we don’t support a neoconservative foreign policy.
Government schools are the primary reason why there are at least 60MM progressive voters to contend with. Regardless of how many are illegals, that trend is going UP. Republicans, conservatives and Christians who want to reverse this long-term trend might consider the fruits of their choice to enroll their children in socialist government schools aka pagan academies.
Thanks, everyone. I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and a chance to reflect on November since we want to do even better next time.
Some are comforted by lies eg popular vote.
Some people spread lies.
Some people are useful idiots and trolls.
Hillary won the popular vote and Trump won the Electoral College vote. By living in a fantasy world is to gain nothing. Stop spreading your mental illness.
Who cares- popular vote does not mean squat- unless you are brain dead communist whiny crybaby Hillary supporter.
Pure bull Shiite LiberalTraians are just Democrats ashamed to say what they really are. They don’t “cost” Republicans votes they take from Democrats Check your facts.
What’s BS about it?
“Governor Weld said that Johnson-Weld internal polling showed that 75 percent of their voters would have voted for Donald Trump had they not been in the race. The Libertarian ticket received nearly 4.5 million total votes in the election. It makes logical sense that three fourths of these voters, drawn to a ticket of former, successful two-term Republican Governors, would be more attracted to limited government advocates promising change from the last eight years. In addition, they saw absolutely no appetite amongst their limited government voters to support the Clinton-Kaine ticket. “
My opinion is that Trump lost the popular vote because of VOTER FRAUD just like President Trump has been saying.
Uhhmm...NO.
No, that is revisionist history you are referring to.
I’m a mature adult man with no need to grow up.
You, however, need to wake up.
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