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Libertarian ticket [Gary Johnson] cost Trump the popular vote
Washington Examiner ^ | 2/10/17 12:00 AM | TOM ROSS •

Posted on 02/11/2017 7:37:12 AM PST by HokieMom

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After enjoying the inauguration and our nation's peaceful transfer of power, we attempted to make our way to a parade viewing party on Pennsylvania Avenue. What should have been a painless trip across town quickly became a prime example of how unhinged the far left has become. Along the way we witnessed smashed cars, broken windows, a fire, and were called names and threatened simply because of how we were dressed; so much for tolerance and acceptance.

After arriving at the parade, we had the pleasure of running into former Massachusetts Republican Governor William Weld. Governor Weld, much like current Governor Charlie Baker, was extremely effective and amazingly popular in deep blue Massachusetts.

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Governor Weld said that Johnson-Weld internal polling showed that 75 percent of their voters would have voted for Donald Trump had they not been in the race. The Libertarian ticket received nearly 4.5 million total votes in the election. It makes logical sense that three fourths of these voters, drawn to a ticket of former, successful two-term Republican Governors, would be more attracted to limited government advocates promising change from the last eight years. In addition, they saw absolutely no appetite amongst their limited government voters to support the Clinton-Kaine ticket.

In short, if the Johnson-Weld ticket had not run, Donald Trump would have won the popular vote. Given the Green Party's anemic showing and its great reluctance to support Hillary Clinton under any circumstance, it is very likely Donald Trump would have still won the popular vote even if the Green Party failed to field a candidate. In addition, Mr. Trump would have rolled up an even larger Electoral College margin, as the additional votes would have likely flipped New Hampshire, Maine, and Minnesota to his column.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; electionfraud; johnson; libertarians; loserterains; thirdparty
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To: marktwain

Wonder how much Soros money the Libertarians earned.


21 posted on 02/11/2017 7:58:36 AM PST by poconopundit (Trust thyself, every heart vibrates to that iron string. Emerson)
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To: stubernx98

I have a few of those in my family. Voted GOP down-ticket, though. Still hoping they vote DJT next time.


22 posted on 02/11/2017 7:59:38 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
Okay ... but it's pretty much meaningless to anyone who took 5th grade Civics, since that's not how it's done. Trump also Spent 1/2 as much as Clinton spent so measured by cost-per-vote or efficiency it was Trump landslide -- but that's not how it's done, either.

65,853,625 (Clinton) + 1,457,222 (Stein) = 67,310,847

62,985,106 (Trump) + 4,489,233 (Johnson) + 729,824 (McMuffin) + 203,039 (Castle, Constitution Party) = 68,407,202

(But the totals DO suggest that the US is still more conservative/libertarian than socialist, even with the illegal votes. By a hair. Or 1.6%.))

23 posted on 02/11/2017 8:00:05 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: HokieMom

A lot of people who knew that Hillary was not acceptable but also believed the MSM garbage about Trump being the worst evil since Hitler probably took the Johnson route. But still, when the fraud is accounted for, Trump won the popular vote by plenty.


24 posted on 02/11/2017 8:00:13 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: HokieMom

At some point in the future it will be proven conclusively that millions of illegal votes were cast by non-citizens for Hillary Clinton, and hundreds of thousands more were cast by dead people, fake people and people who voted in multiple jurisdictions. It is ironic that the cornerstone of our constitutionally limited representative democratic republic has been corrupted and tainted by a political crime syndicate known as the “Democratic Party”.


25 posted on 02/11/2017 8:00:17 AM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: HokieMom

I know there are libertarian friends on this site but damn.....can’t you do better than this!!!


26 posted on 02/11/2017 8:00:31 AM PST by ontap
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To: Sooth2222

<< Okay ... but it’s pretty much meaningless to anyone who took 5th grade Civics, since that’s not how it’s done. >>

True, but we want to win it ALL! :^)


27 posted on 02/11/2017 8:02:27 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: fireman15

<< At some point in the future it will be proven conclusively that millions of illegal votes were cast by non-citizens for Hillary Clinton....>>

Agree. How do we fix it? Can the entire voter rolls be purged and require the entire nation to re-register?


28 posted on 02/11/2017 8:05:58 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: patriotspride

Just imagine. one woman voted 5 times. I bet there are literally thousands doing that. All RAT votes I am certain.


29 posted on 02/11/2017 8:12:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: stubernx98
I thought the Donald/The President's speaking style vastly improved after the nomination. I wasn't a never Trumper, but in the primaries I guess I could have been mistaken for one.
30 posted on 02/11/2017 8:22:17 AM PST by Stepan12 (go)
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To: HokieMom
Agree. How do we fix it? Can the entire voter rolls be purged and require the entire nation to re-register?

After it is shown that there are massive anomalies I think that re-registration would be a very good start. Just the deafening howls from the opposition would make it well worth the effort.

31 posted on 02/11/2017 8:25:48 AM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: HokieMom

It is a very good thing for Trump and the country, that the libertarians put forward such a wackadoodle.

Had they put forward a good candidate, he might have pulled enough away for Hillary to win. Initially, I was leaning to the libertarian party, as well as, a lot of my friends. Johnson was so crazy, that I and eventually most of the others abandoned him. Plus, I grew more and more anyone but Hillary. She had to be defeated.


32 posted on 02/11/2017 8:27:42 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (what a mess we got ourselves into)
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To: marktwain
"Liberterians would not have voted for Clinton."

That's questionable. If they voted for Crazy Johnson, the libertarians could have voted for anyone.

33 posted on 02/11/2017 8:33:56 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

It certainly raises the Hillary won the popular vote argument.

Solution: improve the integrity of the electoral process. One solution that has been proposed is requiring some form of valid id for voting and severe punishment for people who cheat. Make an example.


34 posted on 02/11/2017 8:34:36 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Carl Vehse
Ya, some “libertarians” were a bit loony. Example: Glenn Beck. He was telling everyone to vote for Hillary.
35 posted on 02/11/2017 8:36:42 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: stubernx98
I wonder how many people who were put off by DJT's speaking style ever watched an entire rally speech or only heard the snippets that the MSM played over and over.

I do believe that his six or so different sentences/paragraphs of unforced errors that were played in a loop by opponents and in ads really cost him a lot of votes. Hopefully in 2020, he will have overcome their negative effect. The snowflakes who are protesting now but didn't bother to vote this time will not make that mistake again.

36 posted on 02/11/2017 8:40:09 AM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever.,)
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To: HokieMom

Nope, Virginia is gone. This past election proved that. Luckily, states like Minnesota, Maine, Wisconsin, etc. are now in play.


37 posted on 02/11/2017 8:42:06 AM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Tucker39

Agreed


38 posted on 02/11/2017 8:49:15 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: HokieMom

As a 31 year Libertarian Party member i can say without reservation that this article is bogus Bull$#!+.

The people who gave record support to the Party candidate were

1. NeverTrump voters who could not stomach Shrill Stein or Egg McMuffin.

2. NeverHilary voters who hated Trump.

When they voted they went on with their partisan lives in other political parties.

Some are trying to co-opt the Libertarian party and it’s views. They will not be here long when they find out that we’re a pretty stubborn lot.

These people were NEVER going to vote Trump.


39 posted on 02/11/2017 8:55:07 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: HokieMom

Let’s stick with the illegals - no sense in coming up with our own “blame this individual” game.


40 posted on 02/11/2017 9:06:27 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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