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Self-Driving Cars Will Decide Who Lives & Who Dies
Industrial Equipment News ^ | 1-18-2017 | Matt O'Brien

Posted on 01/18/2017 10:09:45 AM PST by fishtank

Self-Driving Cars Will Decide Who Lives & Who Dies

But how will they make that decision?

Contributor: Matt O'Brien

BOSTON (AP) — Imagine you're behind the wheel when your brakes fail. As you speed toward a crowded crosswalk, you're confronted with an impossible choice: veer right and mow down a large group of elderly people, or veer left into a woman pushing a stroller.

Now imagine you're riding in the back of a self-driving car. How would it decide?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cars
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To: SgtHooper

I hate Illinois NAZIs ...

81 posted on 01/18/2017 11:22:42 AM PST by NorthMountain (Washington Post is Fake News)
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To: fishtank

Of course part of the point of self driving cars is that they “think” faster than humans and aren’t as easily distracted and thus “notice” that situation well in advance and stop the car without killing anybody.


82 posted on 01/18/2017 11:28:40 AM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: Honorary Serb

Yeah we do. Especially America, home of the worst drivers in the civilized world.


83 posted on 01/18/2017 11:29:56 AM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: fishtank

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As if we needed another reason why self driving vehicles should be prohibited.
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84 posted on 01/18/2017 11:29:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: alancarp
What if there’s a mob blocking an Interstate?

While a manually-driven car can be used to shove your way through the mob to safety, a self-driving car will just stop and let the mob drag you out and beat you to death.

85 posted on 01/18/2017 11:31:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Obadiah
I’m not against technology, but it seems to me that there are forces out there that are moving mountains to bring about driverless cars. For what real reason or benefit?

I think there are several forces in play. You have the techies that want to sell the products that go into the auto. Highway planners in big city metro areas want it to decrease commute travel times, etc. Then there are the ride sharing companies and transportation firms that don't want to pay for drivers unless they have to.

86 posted on 01/18/2017 11:41:14 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Fresh Wind
Of course, such events may well be banned as climate threats by then so it won't matter.

My thought is that the only way it will work is if the cars run fairly slowly, almost like a tram car ride. They may well be electric, running like little toy cars on an electric grid. It would require a repressive government to force people to accept a world in which they no longer drive cars but merely catch a ride on the robotic cars. I really don't see it happening anytime soon.

87 posted on 01/18/2017 11:57:39 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: dp0622

Same thing happened to me! I had a blowout on November 8 2008 when I was going to pick up my mother and drive her to the voting booth. Lost control for a couple of seconds, recovered, and had a drop-dead gorgeous amazon of a NJ state trooper help me get a change of tire. All I got for my pains was a tongue-lashing from my mother for being an hour late to the polls!

I like to drive. I can’t imagine being driven.


88 posted on 01/18/2017 12:04:58 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: discostu

Guess you’ve never driven in Sicily, Italy or Ireland!


89 posted on 01/18/2017 12:06:28 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Ireland:
Fatalities per 100,000 people: 4.1
Fatalities per 100,000 cars: 7.6
Fatalities per 1 billion car KM: 3.9

Italy (which includes Sicily):
Fatalities per 100,000 people: 6.1
Fatalities per 100,000 cars: 7.3

US:
Fatalities per 100,000 people: 10.6
Fatalities per 100,000 cars: 12.9
Fatalities per 1 billion car KM: 7.1

The stats are in, we’re terrible drivers.


90 posted on 01/18/2017 12:13:11 PM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: Obadiah

It’s the next killer app, or in this case non-killer app. Self driving cars have been a sci-fi staple for generations, so everybody in the nerd community knows the concept. Add to that the fact that car accidents are still the number 1 killer on the planet. Then you’ve got the fact that we are not expanding road capacity to keep up with people or car quantity and that only leaves one solution to traffic congestion: make the cars take less space. Self driving can do that.

Then you’ve got the industrial drivers, expensive people with expensive licenses that get revoked easily, and have limited time windows of driving available to them. Long haul trucking want self driving vehicles badly. Cab companies want them.

There is a lot of money to be made and saved with self driving vehicles.


91 posted on 01/18/2017 12:25:49 PM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: discostu

Much bigger country, many more cars. Sicily doesn’t exactly think of itself as a part of Italy, lol.


92 posted on 01/18/2017 12:27:32 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Those stats are per person, and per car, and per mile. So it normalizes our size differences out, and shows that we’re terrible. We are the least trained drivers in the civilized world, the least skilled drivers in the civilized world, and the most likely die in an accident.

Sicily should take it up with the UN.


93 posted on 01/18/2017 12:30:50 PM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: fishtank

The judgement is easy - preserve the passengers.
They paid for the car or for the ride. They get first consideration when it comes to safety.
Alternately, self driving cars will be programmed to make the choice that creates least liability for the software company and, possibly, its customers.
On the plus side, the auto-driving software should have faster reactions and be in compliance with the speed limit, making it easier to avoid the situation in the first place.


94 posted on 01/18/2017 1:02:12 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: NorthMountain

LOL! Seriously enjoy that scene! Thx!


95 posted on 01/18/2017 1:08:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I LOVE your posts :)

And I’m glad you were a good enough driver to safely get over!! It’s not easy!


96 posted on 01/18/2017 2:01:41 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: bIlluminati

THAT LOW!!!!

They can keep em. Now they’re worth, with this news, 3 or 4 hundred thousand.

There are 50k taxis i think but half a million is a lot to make up if youre racing against the clock.

The number of people needed to maintain these things, unlike computers, will be a much lesser number than the people it replaces


97 posted on 01/18/2017 2:18:09 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: discostu

Have you ever visited these countries. Most places aren’t exactly built for speed.

I would have a nervous breakdown within a month.

We can make the speed limit 5 miles an hour and beat them out.

It’s all about what you want.

Open highway with a cool breeze and a fast car. Or a toy that does 25 mph.


98 posted on 01/18/2017 2:23:25 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: discostu

Going on raw numbers without so many other factors involved is REALLY BAD science.

Keep you day job.

Or, if we’re such bad drivers, move to Ireland :)

YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!


99 posted on 01/18/2017 2:25:16 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

It’s not raw numbers. And it’s good science. We get in more accidents, and a higher percentage of those accidents have fatalities. Meanwhile we spend less time in drivers training, and our drivers license testing wouldn’t even get you a learners permit in much of the world.

I don’t want to move to Ireland, the weather sucks. None of which changes the well known FACT American drivers are terrible. Under trained, under skilled, and over egoed.


100 posted on 01/18/2017 2:28:07 PM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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