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1 posted on 01/13/2017 6:19:27 AM PST by GIdget2004
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I thought Trump was just referring to Medicare/Medicaid negotiating prices for the drugs they use?

And if the GOPe is defending what happened with things like the Epi-pen, then shame on them for it.


2 posted on 01/13/2017 6:23:37 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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In related matters, what is the actual stated Trump / GOP plan to replace ACA?

Does anybody know what the stated position is on a replacement other than mouthing more about “free market”?


3 posted on 01/13/2017 6:25:42 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To me, pharmaceutical companies are just below wife beaters in terms of criminality.

Marketing drugs for off label uses, then after making 200 billion, paying a 7 billion fine.

They Don’t have to and DIDN’T hand in Negative results from antidepressant studies, of which there were many. Why they aren’t obligated to turn over negative results too is beyond me. The FDA has to fix that.

When Oxycontin hit the market, pharma promised it would just be use for extreme cases like cancer patients.

We know how that ended.

Then they make money of suboxone, the drug that gets addicts off of the drug that pharma made in the first place.


4 posted on 01/13/2017 6:26:20 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Funny how the Big Pharma wound up being at worst exempt from and more likely buttressed by Obamacare. Oligopolies happily cut deals with big government to reduce risk and cement positions.


5 posted on 01/13/2017 6:27:42 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Trump isn't trying to win any popularity contest. Except, that is, for the one with the American people, who he's smart enough to know that he needs to keep his promises to, to win over.

Getting drug prices down will help alot, as they're among the biggest drivers of year-to-year increases in costs.

6 posted on 01/13/2017 6:28:22 AM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... until the final Trump sounds..." ;^)
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Trump is going to diverge from Republicans and from Conservative orthodoxy at certain times.

Get used to it. It’s how he won the election.

Still beats the alternative.


9 posted on 01/13/2017 6:28:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Bid purchasing power is the only thing that makes sense to me. If you ever find the SOBs colluding on the bids beat them to death.

You would be amazed how fast and how much drug prices for the common stuff could come down. They have plenty of room to wiggle on price an still make money.

I’ve bought name brand, top of the line, new stuff overseas for a fraction of what it costs in the US. e.g. Voltaren gel is sold over the counter outside the US for less than $10 a tube. It is prescription here and more than $50 a tube.


10 posted on 01/13/2017 6:33:05 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Why should the pharmaceuticals be exempt from competition?
19 posted on 01/13/2017 6:53:44 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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This is a chance for Trump to really really shine. A reduction in prescription drug costs, negotiated rates for Medicare, Medicaid and possible forced competition between drug manufacturers by limiting patents, not extending existing patents, and mandatory licensing for another manufacturer.

Now for the lawyers (oh hear them howl)

Lawyer’s fee Caps and more stringent rules on class action lawsuits regarding prescription drugs, medical devices.

Payout caps and Lawyer’s fee caps on medical malpractice for all damages but actual damages.

I wouldn’t even mind the Federal government or State Mandates nationalize medical malpractice insurance.


20 posted on 01/13/2017 6:55:26 AM PST by Fhios
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I’ve read that we pay top dollar for drugs while the world pays far less for their product.


23 posted on 01/13/2017 7:05:09 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Drug companies do need to be looked at. How can Canada pay less? Drugs that have been out there for years only go up in price? I am not against making a profit, but I am against making a gross profit off of people who are ill.


24 posted on 01/13/2017 7:05:48 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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The drug companies buy these represetatives.

Clean the swamp!


25 posted on 01/13/2017 7:10:49 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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Because of patent protection created by government, there is no real free market to begin with.


29 posted on 01/13/2017 7:18:05 AM PST by Raycpa
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Yeah, let the “free market” decide. Manufacturer charges what he wants and the government pays or you die. That’s how it works, right?


32 posted on 01/13/2017 7:23:08 AM PST by AndyJackson
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The first thing Dubya did when he got into office was give the drug companies a sweetheart deal with Medicare Part D.

I suspect Rumsfeld was behind that.


41 posted on 01/13/2017 7:41:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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Right now, Medicare drug prices are offered by a system of competing private plans. This includes Medicare advantage and at least 1,000 prescription drug plans available through private plans.Thanks to this competition, the total cost of the Medicare drug plan is half of what it was projected to be when the program was created in 2003.

There are conservatives who believe that the drug companies are ripping people off and that if we allow government to negotiate prices, all of a sudden government will become benevolent and reliable, and we will all enjoy lower costs without any consequences. This is idiocy on parade.

When government talks about "negotiating" drug prices, it means instituting price controls. And what could possibly go wrong with price controls? Why is it that when it comes to this issue, conservatives can't wait to get into bed with the likes of Bernie Sanders?

44 posted on 01/13/2017 7:50:54 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Big Pharma should have to give meds to veterans for free then maybe, just maybe, those who need psych meds won’t be drugged into a stupor or become addicts and end up on the street or worse, dead.


49 posted on 01/13/2017 8:05:01 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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Don’t know that I agree with Trump here. The average cost of developing drugs is large. The Tufts Center reports that $2.6 billion is the average cost to develop “a new prescription medicine that gains marketing approval,” And that’s anything from aspirin to cancer drugs with aspirin coming cheap and more inclusive drugs raising the price. Along with the years to get marketing approval. Cut back on the big brother prices, and it will curtail the expense of the purchase. Too many hoops as the drug companies are just as trapped in an overblown economy as we are.

red


56 posted on 01/13/2017 8:44:39 AM PST by Redwood71
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Here’s something to consider in letting Medicare negotiate pricing. To negotiate successfully, you sometimes have to be willing to say no and walk away from the table. Which drugs should Medicare walk away from? You might set up a board to help determine costs and benefits of specific drugs, but then you would be accused of establishing death panels.


60 posted on 01/13/2017 9:26:41 AM PST by oincobx
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