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MHO: So what if T doesn't use a telepromter --if this is their best shot then they must be pretty hard up. He can back track on the number later.
1 posted on 01/12/2017 2:36:13 AM PST by expat_panama
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The MSM eagerly reporting on discrepancies once again since 8 years ago...

The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.


2 posted on 01/12/2017 2:43:33 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Stevie Liesman is a horrible person....typical Democrat.


3 posted on 01/12/2017 2:44:04 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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What an appropriate last name the writer has.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Work Force is 152.4 million.

Total of private sector and self employed: 129.1 million

Difference is a hell of a lot more than 5.4 million.

Also, we are at $19.956 trillion for the national debt.

We will turn 20 trillion right about on Jan. 20th.

Thanks,Obama!


4 posted on 01/12/2017 2:49:24 AM PST by exit82 (Making America Great Again begins with........me.)
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...seems this lacky skips over ...over 90% of Odungo’s new hiring for several months are part timers...


5 posted on 01/12/2017 2:50:20 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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I guess the point is that he has no idea what he’s talking about a lot of the time, and that general trait can have possible negative consequences given that he’s the president (elect).


7 posted on 01/12/2017 2:55:31 AM PST by babble-on
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If this is what the press considers a colossal error on P.E. Trump's part, I'd say we're in pretty good shape.
11 posted on 01/12/2017 3:05:59 AM PST by BraveMan
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5.4 Million say they want a job because they are currently receiving unemployment benefits that require them to certify to the government, every other week, that they are looking for a job. The day the unemployment runs out is the day they stop certifying, and is the day they drop out of the 5.4 million.

So the number of people looking for a job is somewhere between 5.4 million and 94 million. The exact number is a figure the government works very hard to obscure. One thing for sure, it is a helluva lot more than 5.4 million.


12 posted on 01/12/2017 3:06:43 AM PST by Haiku Guy
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Defining the size of the jobs problem in America is critical for the administration and the Federal Reserve to get economic and monetary policy right. If there is indeed a large cadre of Americans who want work but can't get it, it makes sense to have strong fiscal and monetary stimulus

Free Traitors™ and Keynesian economists should be burned at the stake.

15 posted on 01/12/2017 3:24:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Three words...

Part time jobs.


17 posted on 01/12/2017 3:37:41 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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Trump said that there "are 96 million wanting a job and they can't get (one). You know that story. The real number. That's the real number."

Neither of my 72 year old parents want a job at this stage of their life. So I guess the real number is 95,999,998.

19 posted on 01/12/2017 3:40:41 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Defining the size of the jobs problem in America is critical for the administration and the Federal Reserve to get economic and monetary policy right.

Yeah, like the BLS getting it right and giving us the true numbers, huh? Regardless of what part of that 96 million has gone to SSI; SSDI; retired at 62 or earlier; UIC; or has gone onSNAP, TANF, EITC, AFDC and Section 8, the REAL FACT is that the number of work eligible adults NOT WORKING has gone up - significantly, under Obama. Little CBC Stevie can stick his nits up his a$$.

21 posted on 01/12/2017 3:48:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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Perhaps Trump's phrasing was off, but he was making a valid point, right? We've all seen this graph. It tells a bad story. Employment is not all happy, happy, happy although Obama and the media say it is.

27 posted on 01/12/2017 4:13:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Actually the answer is IN BETWEEN, both sides are wrong.

Some of those 96 million definitely don’t want jobs (housewives for example married to a way-paying husband), but MANY can go either way (housewives and retirees). If decent jobs are wanting, they’ll work. If decent jobs are not out there, then screw it.

...and don’t get me started on ‘disabled’ types, where the growth there is about double the population, and the last time that I checked there was no epidemic of ‘disability disease’ running rampant.


29 posted on 01/12/2017 4:44:26 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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Fake news. Lieesman is well named.


33 posted on 01/12/2017 4:50:36 AM PST by gogeo (But he's not a conserrrrrvative!)
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Hey, all of you progressives and mooselimbs about to be flushed out of DC and all of the Federal Government jobs, you really have nothing to fear. There are lots of jobs out there


34 posted on 01/12/2017 4:50:44 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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This MSN BS is just that. Nobody but RATs care or watch MSNBC...it's just more lefty dribble and will go no where.

SAD to even see it posted here!

36 posted on 01/12/2017 4:52:15 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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In millions. That people can hold 2+ jobs not shown here.
324.1 US Population Dec 2016
`75.5 Age 18 and under
248.6 Adults
`48.3 Age 65+
`45.3 Age 65+ on SS
200.3 Age 19-64
`3.0 Age 65+ not on SS
203.3 Potential in workforce
159.6 in workforce (by one way of looking at it)
`43.7 not in workforce
`22.0 Government/public sector employment
``0.4 Active duty military
``1.0 In military not active duty
``3.6 Federal civilian workforce
``3.9 State and Local employment fulltime
``1.9 State and Local employment part time
`12.0 ??? These BLS statistics don’t add up. What am I missing?
137.6 in workforce not in government employment.
``7.5 unemployed per BLS
130.1 in workforce and have a job in private sector
``0.1 have a private sector job but on strike/lockout
130.1 in private sector and actually working
`12.3 in manufacturing jobs
nn.n breakdown could be done by industry, by occupation, etc
xx.s “

43.7 not in workforce
15.0 in school as reason not in workforce. Number both work and school?
28.7 not in workforce and not in school
`0.4 in prison
28.3 available
20.0 not in workforce and don’t want a job per WSJ
No recent statistical breakdown found as to why don’t want a job.
Want to be Housewives? Independently wealthy?
Prefer to live solely on SSI,SNAP, EBT, Medicaid, etc?
`2.6 not in workforce and do want a job.
`5.7 not in workforce and
no recent good statistical description of them

`8.0 on SS age 18-64 survivor benefits, etc
`4.1 on SSI age 18-64. More than doubled from 2.0 in 2008
74.7 on Medicaid. Subtract 65+ and 18- for working age adults on Medicaid.
46.0 on food stamps. Subtract those 65+ and 18- for working age adults on food stamps.
Fm.k How many on Food Stamps/Medicaid are in the workforce and work?
Fm.l How many on Food Stamps/Medicaid are in the workforce and unemployed?
Fm.m How many on Food Stamps/Medicaid are not in the workforce but work in the underground economy?
Fm.n How many on Food Stamps and Medicaid want to work but can’t find a job?
Fm.p How many on Food Stamps and Medicaid get more money from welfare than they can get from a low wage job?

Fulltime, partime distinction often not made. Some people have 2+ jobs. Sum of parts should really be greater than the total number of people for that reason.

Numbers based on BLS, government statistics (and WSJ).
Not all from same month of 2016. Don’t quibble over 0.1 millions difference from your number.
But when off by 12 million as in BLS numbers for Government employment, do ask.


42 posted on 01/12/2017 5:24:37 AM PST by spintreebob
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Dont believe ANYTHING Steve Leisman says. He is a beady-eyed, die hard liberal. Hell, Honeymooned in the Soviet Union, like Bernie I think. He loves Communism. He wants the Government to run our lives.


43 posted on 01/12/2017 5:28:54 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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I’ve been retired for the past year, but prior to that I managed a Garden Center.

We lived through 0bama (and COMPLICIT RINOS, IMHO) doing these things to us:

Taking away our really good, company paid (75%) healthcare.

Limiting people to 29 hours of work each week; MAXIMUM.

Taking away our Flex Fund for OTC drugs, other medical needs, etc.

That was MORE than enough, trust me. Scheduling became a nightmare - I was FORCED to hire more people than ever before to cover shifts (we were open 7 days a week, 10-12 hour days) so yes, *I* contributed to ‘creating’ jobs that really weren’t worth much to the Economy as a whole, let alone the person that held that job.

So HAPPY that this National Nightmare will be coming to an end. I really feel for anyone in Middle Management. The remaining few of us that still HAD good paying jobs with healthcare coverage.

*Rolleyes*


59 posted on 01/12/2017 6:46:24 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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It is unfortunately very far from the real number. There are in fact 96 million Americans age 16 and older who are not in the labor force. Of this, just 5.4 million, or 91 million fewer than the number cited by Trump, say they want a job. The rest are retired, sick, disabled, running their households or going to school. (This number is 256,000 fewer than last year and 1.7 million fewer than the all-time high for the series in 2013.)

This is why people hate the media. Everyone knows what he's talking about. ALL of these things are being abused...especially disability.

67 posted on 01/12/2017 8:27:02 AM PST by DouglasKC
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