I’ve had similar thoughts.
You will recall the fawning adoration liberals lavished on Gorbachev. They would have gladly done that for Putin as well but for the fact he chose to prevent the gay agenda from dominating Russian culture.
It’s pathetic how transparent these people are.
The guy is 100% right. Moreover Trump and him see eye to eye on the importance of cultural and sovereignty issues.
They are going to make a great team - they’ll reshape the world the way Reagan and Thatcher did.
Who would have believed that the most pro-western civ, pro-Christian leader in the world is a Russian!! And he’s very eloquent about it.
White Christian nation that doesn’t allow Islamic invasion or homosexual recruitment of minors.
No wonder bathhouse Barry hates them.
Didn’t Bergoglio say he gets coprophilia or something when people talk about the “Christian roots of Europe”?
I think Trump and Putin have a mutual understanding in some areas including this,
Yeah, his years in the KGB and the atheistic communist party were just a youthful indiscretion. No one would think he was just an opportunist then or now, like Milosevic.
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Shhhh - not so loud; obama and the democrats might hear you.
Most americans can't see chistianity as anything to fight about, still see Russia as a communist threat and are locked into social media group think. Dumbed down electorate and the fake news media make it hard to figure out the score for low information voters.
Been telling people all over social media that Russia is a Christian country and that Putin is doing the job of stopping the Muslim invasion while Obama winks and looks the other way. LIvs who voted for Obama are very uncomfortable with this perspective.
Putin is a murderous thug.
Obama has killed far more. Most for Islam.
Putin has a keen sense of what a civilization is and how it perpetuates.
Obama is a community organizer bent on destruction of the civilization.
One does not observe a religion because it has created a "civilization." One observes a religion because it is objectively true. To adhere to a religion merely because it is the religion of one's ancestors/nation/civilization is a form of ancestor worship and paganism. In fact, one could be an atheist and practice one's "ancestral" religion.
This "palaeocon" civilizationism is a blight on our side of the spectrum. Non-Theists have no legitimate reason to subscribe to any ideology anywhere on the spectrum.
But McInsane, Linda and the NeoCons hate Russia, surely we must trust their judgment?
A further challenge for the national Russian identity is connected to the processes we observe outside of Russia. They include foreign policy, moral, and other aspects. We see that many Euro-Atlantic states have taken the way where they deny or reject their own roots, including their Christian roots which form the basis of Western civilization.
In these countries, the moral basis and any traditional identity are being denied - national, religious, cultural, and even gender identities are being denied or relativised. There, politics treats a family with many children as juridically equal to a homosexual partnership; faith in God is equal to faith in Satan. The excesses and exaggerations of political correctness in these countries indeed leads to serious consideration for the legitimization of parties that promote the propaganda of paedophilia.
The people in many European states are actually ashamed of their religious affiliations and are indeed frightened to speak about them. Christian holidays and celebrations are abolished or "neutrally" renamed, as if one were ashamed of those Christian holidays. With this method one hides away the deeper moral value of those celebrations.
And these countries try to force this model onto other nations, globally. I am deeply convinced that this is a direct way to the degradation and primitivization of culture. This leds to deeper demographic and moral crisis in the West.
What can be better evidence for the moral crisis of human society in the West than the loss of its reproductive function? And today nearly all "developed" Western countries cannot survive reproductively, not even with the help of migrants.
Without the moral values that are rooted in Christianity and other world religions, without rules and moral values which have formed, and been developed, over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity and become brutes. And we think it is right and natural to defend and preserve these Christian moral values.
One has to respect the right of every minority to self-determination, but at the same time there cannot and must not be any doubt about the rights of the majority.
At the same time as this process plays out at a national level in the West, we observe on an international level the attempts to create a unipolar, unified model of the world, to relativise and remove institutions of international rights and national sovereignty. In such a unipolar, unified world there is no place for sovereign states. Such a world needs merely vassals.
From a historical perspective, such a unipolar world would mean the surrender of one's own identity and of God-created diversity.
I have far more admiration & respect for Putin, than our current (and soon to be exiting) rat bastard anti-American, anti-Jewish president odumboshiite
“...ave taken the way where they deny or reject their own roots, including their Christian roots which form the basis of Western civilization. ...”
A former KGB intelligence officer... who GETS it. Emphasis on “Intelligence”... unlike the leftist idiots we have here.
Guy loves his country and his people.
As a Christian lover of Western Civilization who has spent much time in Russia, I posted a thread, but felt compelled to paste it within this one as the discussion as already been going.
December 26 marked the 25 year anniversary of the fall of the Soviet Union and the year 2017 will mark 100 years since the Russian Revolution. In light of all the other revolutions going on in the world and our country right now—great and small, it is incumbent on us to glean what lessons we can learn.
Here’s what I wrote:
Russia has long had a history of cherishing the very best and very worst of Western culture and thought: and running with it to its maximal point.
Where they went right: Artistically and culturally.
To this day, The Hermitage museum in Saint Petersburg remains the gatekeeper to some of the greatest treasures of Western art. The centerpiece of the museum is arguably Rembrandt van Rijn’s “Prodigal Son” - a monumental testament to God’s patient, redemptive love to a soul gone astray. (How fitting, the painting be of an elderly Father waiting to embrace his rebellious son in his arms again — an analogy which can apply to nations as well.)
In walking through the museum, one enters into the heart and soul of our civilization, while uncovering the layers and layers of beauty and faith that much of the modern world has kept hid. It is quite the experience. Of course there are museums and such sites all over Europe, but in Russia, a historically much poorer, wartorn, and often isolated country, these treasures are guarded and valued with extra care. The appreciation for that which is timeless and transcendent is palpable. It’s a feeling, which in our American society, often gets drowned out by consumerism and materialism.
Taking from Western ideals and values, and then putting their own spin on it, the great masters of Russian literature, ballet, theater, film, and classical music continue to stir the souls of many throughout the world...sensitizing us to the beauty, but also the pain and mystery of existence. Unfortunately, this melding of the best of Western values with an “Eastern” spin has not played out in Russia’s political history, rather, it was the worst of Western values that found their realization in Russia.
The Russian Empire took its neighboring European models of social aristocracy to extremes and the Soviet Union took the worst of Darwin, Engels, and Marx (all Westerners mind you!) and sought to literally reprogram civilization without its divine Creator.
And when the Soviet Union fell, Russia was trapped by its legacy of inorganic social development. What I mean by inorganic: historically, Russia’s allegiance to Eastern Orthodoxy meant it was not a Western, full-fledged Catholic country loyal to Rome. Thus, it skipped over the natural flow and progression of movements such as the Renaissance, and the Protestant Reformation. Then, at certain points after the fact, Russia would come face to face with their Western neighbors and become aware of their “backwardness” and proceed to embark upon a rush to catch up. The Russian Empire captured the tail end of the secular Enlightenment, while the Soviet Union rushed to implement the fruit of the Industrial and Scientific revolutions.
Fast forward to the 1990s: Russia began to adopt all the *external* trappings of consumer-capitalism, without forging the moral and spiritual foundations necessary for political and social freedom. Our American founders understood freedom cannot exist without the rule of law. *Divine* Law. Adam Smith himself understood that capitalism without virtue was doomed. (See: his “Theory on Moral Sentiments”) - and this is just as true for us as it is for any country.
Therefore, the fall of the Soviet Union left a vacuum that affected every area of society: Socially, the country experienced freedom without law. Economically, the decentralization of the economy led to a scramble and plundering of Russia’s resources — the spoils of which were split between a handful of robber baron oligarchs. Geographically, pre-Soviet borders and ethno-religious lines had to be redrawn, which meant a revival of tribal conflict.
Spiritually, the whole of the religious spectrum descended upon the country from Evangelical missionaries to Scientologists, which brought much confusion from the outside. From the inside, Russia continues to contend with their Orthodoxy, their Soviet atheism, an add to that their pre-Christian Slavic paganism. (Today, practicing witch doctors outnumber medical ones.)
Morally, a previously sheltered public was suddenly exposed to all the social mores of the outside world without a compass or standard to measure their value. And finally, there was the burden of shame: their defeat in the Cold War and the shattering of a national narrative predicated upon their victory in World War II and their perceived technological, military superiority over the West.
Putin came to power just as the country was hungering for some semblance of order and unity, and he succeeded, at least in the superficial sense. For a time. Unfortunately, his economic rules of engagement involved fattening the pockets of oligarchs who agreed to play by his rules. He allowed just enough of Russia’s oil wealth to seep into the general population, which saw their standards of living rise dramatically. But all the while he runs a government based on KGB ethics, suppressing dissent and freedom of speech, and putting media outlets under state control. The economy is largely re-centralized and wholly dependent on the price of oil.
Indeed at first glance, he seems to tout Russia’s supposed lessons pulled from the ash heap of the militant, atheist experiment that was the USSR. Yet he is also largely responsible for the revival of Soviet nostalgia among the populace — as a tool for social cohesion. Today, Josef Stalin is viewed by many people —young and old alike, as a necessary and successful, albeit imperfect leader. The Orthodox Church has seen genuine revival, but it is again falling into the same trap of political and economic alliances that brought about much of the anti-church sentiments that even preceded the 1917 Revolution.
There is a genuine conundrum felt among the faithful, between their faith and their patriotism. (Patriotism and nationalism go hand in hand with respect for the Soviet legacy—the very legacy which outlawed their faith!)
Therefore, on one hand: Putin’s Russia has much to offer in the way of helping the West recover what we have lost. On the other hand, let’s not forget the very ideals that are currently destroying and even created the European Union echo the very Soviet Union which Putin and his Russia still hope to celebrate as oppose to repent of: socialism, secularism, and the bureaucratization of the human spirit.
Russia has not properly grieved nor repented of their Soviet past, this holds them back. On the other hand, their refusal to tow the Western line of political correctness is their strength.
Most Russians innately understand why the Soviet Union was doomed, and they continue to marvel and even envy America for its innovation, freedom, and way of life. But they are more committed than ever to forging their own unique ethnic and cultural identity, distinct and separate from the West. The search for who they are continues...
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