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1 posted on 12/21/2016 7:47:53 AM PST by VitacoreVision
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See my tagline. It is far past the time when we need to take the left seriously, condemn and defeat them.


2 posted on 12/21/2016 7:52:37 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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Carlos Slim- Slimes of NY.


3 posted on 12/21/2016 7:53:40 AM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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They've learned that if they attach the word "slavery" to anything they can destroy it at will with the support of the MSM and social media.
4 posted on 12/21/2016 7:53:47 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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The entire left has devolved into pushing the meme of racism at every turn to move their agenda.

The mark of an intellectually bankrupt political ideology.

Today’s left is all about PC and Race-Baiting.


5 posted on 12/21/2016 7:54:15 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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The leftist “NYT” is now completely mouthing the dem talking points.

The left does not like the electoral college, because it offers a protection against illegal alien voting.

A state can have lots and lots of illegals voting. Such as say ... CALIFORNIA.

The thing is, that state’s electors, are based upon the population of registered voters. NOT on the number of votes.

This protects the country, and the election, from various illegal voting surges in various location like ... CALIFORNIA.

Just saying.


6 posted on 12/21/2016 7:56:19 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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this is not about abolishing the EC...it’s about getting the blue states to get out of the US so that they won’t have to deal with it


7 posted on 12/21/2016 7:56:56 AM PST by ari-freedom (You can't be America First by putting G-d last)
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8 posted on 12/21/2016 7:57:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident #MAGA)
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Ironically it is the NYT firmly behind slavery by feeding false narratives to minorities which keep them from seeking a better life off the Democrat Plantation.


10 posted on 12/21/2016 7:58:41 AM PST by Eddie01
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Tell the Dems to drop the super delegate system and then we’ll talk about the Electoral College.


12 posted on 12/21/2016 7:59:13 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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just tell all the low info voters that the electoral college is like the salary cap in the NFL.
it keeps the big market teams from overwhelming the rest.


13 posted on 12/21/2016 8:01:03 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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N.Y. Times' Fake News LIES That Electoral College Was Created to Protect Slavery

"Fake news" is another subtle Leftist term they have invented to distract you from the fact that they are LIARS.

"Fake news" implies a subjective opinion about what's being said.

LIES is an objective standard comparing what was said with the facts. The Left does not want you to go there.

It isn't about "fake news". It is about the CHRONIC LIES of the Left.

14 posted on 12/21/2016 8:02:06 AM PST by Jim W N
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Bump


15 posted on 12/21/2016 8:02:11 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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Thanks for posting this article.

Very interesting that the 3/5’s thing was intended to benefit the North.


16 posted on 12/21/2016 8:02:23 AM PST by Mark was here (Fake news = "Hands up ... Dont shoot")
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I remember playing a game called “Civilization” many years ago and one of the things you could do was pick your form of government.

I at first picked “Democracy” and it was a nightmare- it was one of the worst ones you could pick (in the game.)

Then you could pick a Republic, and that was significantly better. But occastionally you had to switch to Monarchy if you wanted to get anything done.

The game writers were clearly well-schooled in government behaviors. Surprising for the times- 25 years ago this was.


17 posted on 12/21/2016 8:05:38 AM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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It was not the Electoral College, but a clause in the Constitution itself that protected the institution of slavery. In those states that held slavery to be legal, the numerous quantity of persons under involuntary servitude (slaves) would give a disparate weight to those states if counted as “whole persons”, yet if not included, the states without slaves would have a disproportionate weight of their own. To sort of “equalize” this disparity, the value of each person declared to be “not free” was reduced to three-fifths that of a free man.

Article I, Section 2, third paragraph:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”


18 posted on 12/21/2016 8:06:10 AM PST by alloysteel (It is OK to use the greeting "Merry Christmas" again. Happy birthday, Jesus!)
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the writer insinuates that anyone who favors keeping the Electoral College is not a “reasonable” person

Or if sensible, then among the minority. They also fail to mention that slavery was abolished 77 years later. It lasted that much longer because the south won the right to count their slaves as 3/5ths for census purposes giving them the majority of electoral votes. The north didn't want them to be allowed to count slaves at all. Something for people to think about when complaining about that compromise, and how it actually extended the life of slavery by many decades. Yet the electoral college continued on as it still does today.

So if their claim had any credibility to it then why keep the electoral college after slavery was abolished?

The answer of course is because they were not trying to create a Democracy, because all Democracies before our Republic was established had ended in abject failure. It was intended to make less populated parts of the country have more say in the process of determining our countries leader.

20 posted on 12/21/2016 8:14:47 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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They can blather on all they want but nothing is going to happen to the EC. The barriers are simply too high. Getting a constitutional amendment through Congress would be hard enough, but ratification by a majority of states? No way.


25 posted on 12/21/2016 8:20:16 AM PST by luv2ski
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From the NYT:

"When slavery was the law of the land, a direct popular vote would have disadvantaged the Southern states, with their large disenfranchised populations. Counting those men and women as three-fifths of a white person, as the Constitution originally did, gave the slave states more electoral votes.”

Maybe it's too early in the morning for me to think, but how did a measure which effectively reduced the populations of the slave states give them more electoral votes?

From the author:

"The reality is that the creation of the electoral vote system was to protect states with smaller populations from domination by states with larger population."

That's how it was taught to me back in the early 60s. We were taught that without this compromise, there probably wouldn't even have been a United states.
27 posted on 12/21/2016 8:37:12 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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The destruction of this republic began with poor education that has gotten worse with each generation. I’d wager that 9 out 10 people have no idea how the “electrical” college works. And it gets even worse every generation. I’ve always believed an intelligence test is needed to determine eligibility to vote.


28 posted on 12/21/2016 8:38:05 AM PST by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist inmy lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To the contrary - the electoral college prevented 95% of America from being enslaved by a handful of hard-left counties (which were undoubtedly full of fraudulent votes anyway).


38 posted on 12/21/2016 8:50:16 AM PST by meyer (There is no political solution to this troubling evolution...)
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