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Election panel awaits judge’s ruling on Mich. recount
The Detroit News | December 7, 2016 | Chad Livengood

Posted on 12/07/2016 11:52:39 AM PST by bobsunshine

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; mi; michigan; recount; trump
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This seems like nobody is willing to end this and the Federal Judge is saying he has the final say - "God Complex" - Like I've said before, we conservatives need to stop the liberals once they start this sh.. We turn our cheek because we are being "nice". We should have never let this get this far. Hopefully the Lawyers have learned, if not it will cost MI $5 MM taxpayer dollars and cause all of us "Pain and Suffering"
1 posted on 12/07/2016 11:52:39 AM PST by bobsunshine
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From another story: “A federal judge won’t immediately stop a statewide recount of the Nov. 8 presidential election results Wednesday after hearing 90 minutes of argument following three days of court battles in two states.

U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith said he will issue a written order, possibly later Wednesday, after considering requests from the Michigan Republican Party and state officials that effectively would halt the recount in light of a lower-court ruling Tuesday. The recount started Monday”.


2 posted on 12/07/2016 11:54:59 AM PST by bobsunshine
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He should have not even held a hearing. Dissolve the restraining order and been done with it.
Liberal judges are a stain on the justice system.


3 posted on 12/07/2016 11:57:09 AM PST by roostercogburn
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To: bobsunshine
seems this judge has no choice but to end it.

The 6th Circuit, in affirming Goldsmith's order, said: "If subsequently, the Michigan courts determine the ... recount is improper under Michigan state law for any reason, we expect the district court to entertain any properly filed motions to dissolve or modify this order in this case."


4 posted on 12/07/2016 12:00:15 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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To: bobsunshine

I wonder if (while it would have been nice to have stopped it a great deal earlier) this is ultimately making the left look very bad. It would have been nice for the whole thing to have stopped that while back even at the Wisconsin Election Commission level, but we’ve now gotten to see hardly any change with the recount there soon to be finished (hopefully), therefore they look like they cried wolf in that instance at least. Not to mention some things not adding up in the heavily Democrat areas in terms of the integrity of the original recount.


5 posted on 12/07/2016 12:00:47 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: bobsunshine
The ruling is not from a "lower court." The ruling is from the second highest court with jurisdiction (Goldschmidt, Sieg Heil, has none.) The recount is now unlawful. No decision by Goldschmidt or any other Federal Court can change that fact. Only the MI Supreme Court can change whether the recount is lawful.

Goldschmidt may very well rule that the "recount" -- which is now a legal nullity -- must continue, but neither he nor any other Federal Court can change the slate of electors under the US Constitution.

6 posted on 12/07/2016 12:00:55 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: stylin19a

Case has not reached the MI supreme court. I suspect district court is waiting for all appeals from Stein to be exhausted.


7 posted on 12/07/2016 12:01:43 PM PST by avkillick
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To: bobsunshine

I’m guessing Goldbrick is thinking about issuing his ruling around next Wednesday.


8 posted on 12/07/2016 12:02:42 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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This is garbage and insanity defined.

The Michigan Court of Appeals ruled 3-0 yesterday that Stein is not “an aggrieved candidate” and therefore the recount SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN STARTED in the first place. They also ruled that the Board of Canvassers should halt the recount. Yet, here we are back in Federal (?!) court even after our State court that has the only jurisdiction has ruled.

The lib Fed judge ONLY decided on Sunday (after midnight, in a LOCKED COURTROOM) on the timing of the recount starting, NOT whether the recount COULD start.

Yet, today back before that same lib Fed judge, (following the tweets of a local reporter in the courtroom), there was all types of discussion about everything except the COA ruling yesterday. Discussion about cost. Discussion about potential for fraud and hacking. You name it. Basically obfuscating the entire issue.

This judge has ZERO jurisdiction over the recount and whether it should / should not happen - but, he has threatened (and stomped his feet while doing so) via a TRO that the recount “must continue until *I* say it will stop”.

WTF?!!

This type of stuff really tweaks me off. Can’t we get back to ANY kind of rule of law any more?! I feel like I’m living in some third world tin dictatorship where the powerful just make up the rules as they go, and not the USA where we at least USED to follow the law AS WRITTEN.


9 posted on 12/07/2016 12:03:07 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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Even if he orders it to continue, it makes no difference except as a purely academic exercise to support his obviously (and yugely) over-inflated ego. As of this moment, any result of the "recount" is a legal nullity.

Only the MI Supreme Court could possibly change that fact.

10 posted on 12/07/2016 12:04:06 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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makes sense. thanx !


11 posted on 12/07/2016 12:05:56 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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To: jstolzen

Console yourself with this fact: no matter what he rules, the legal fact of the matter is that unless the MI Supreme Court steps in to reverse the MI appeals court, any result of this “recount” is a legal nullity.


12 posted on 12/07/2016 12:06:13 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: bobsunshine

What happens if Jill Stein’s deposit is not enough to cover the costs of the recount?

I she personally liable for any amount over what she has already paid?

Can she be forced into bankruptcy?


13 posted on 12/07/2016 12:06:59 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: bobsunshine

I imagine both sides have their appeals and oppositions already drafted and ready to file with the US Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit. Just a guess.


14 posted on 12/07/2016 12:08:35 PM PST by EDINVA
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From what I’m reading, WI charged her, and she advanced @ $3.5M of an adjusted estimated of $3.9M but in MI the cost is on the taxpayers. Poor, dummy MI never anticipated a Jill Stein/Green Party. Guess that’s a state law that will be changed pronto!


15 posted on 12/07/2016 12:10:44 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: bobsunshine

Right now conservatives are waiting anxiously “for the recount to end” while in smoky backrooms the most corrupt Democrats are screaming “End the darn recount before they figure out our vote-fraud was generating more reported votes than there were live voters casting ballots!”


16 posted on 12/07/2016 12:10:54 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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I could get behind an amendment making any Federal Judge who orders a recount personally liable for the cost.


17 posted on 12/07/2016 12:11:20 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The election board failed in its duty to reject the recount request which is what the appeals ruling said. They should be replaced. I suspect if Goldstrom doesn’t end recount, he’ll be overruled.


18 posted on 12/07/2016 12:12:32 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: bobsunshine

Let the corrupt votes and fraud of Detroit be fully exposed. Commence with the recounts and charge Jilted Jill Stein for the costs


19 posted on 12/07/2016 12:18:42 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny (agent Able Deplor))
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“I suspect if Goldstrom doesn’t end recount, he’ll be overruled.”

That’s my take as well, and Goldstein knows it. District Court judges do not like to be overturned so he may just do the right thing, tho that wouldn’t stop Stein’s lawyers. They get paid hourly, so wth.


20 posted on 12/07/2016 12:21:43 PM PST by EDINVA
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