Posted on 12/04/2016 1:06:55 AM PST by tank_sherman
HARRISBURG, Pa. — Green Party-backed voters dropped a court case Saturday night that had sought to force a statewide recount of Pennsylvania’s Nov. 8 presidential election, won by Republican Donald Trump, in what Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein had framed as an effort to explore whether voting machines and systems had been hacked and the election result manipulated.
But later Saturday night, the party announced it’ll go to federal court instead. A statement from the lead lawyer for the recount campaign says it’ll seek an emergency federal court order for the recount. It says barriers to a recount in Pennsylvania are pervasive and the state court system isn’t equipped to address them.
(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...
Stein was to go before the PA Commonwealth Court on Monday. Majority of judges on the CC are Republicans. Is this why she is now going federal?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Court_of_Pennsylvania
Was the bond promulgated to pay for the already known results? Why would a state do otherwise? And why are the leftists and other parties involved regard tax dollars as free money and continually demonstrate a complete and utter lack (not even a smidgen) of fiscal responsibility?
Appalling indeed!
0 Standing!
As a candidate she doe have standing, but certainly getting desperate going Federal and bypassing the State. From my read a tough argument if the Green Party is contending State wide voter fraud and the State unable to address. Given that State law, not federal, regulates most aspects of the election why would the Federal courts want to intervene and systematically overrule all State law?
Progressives mock the Carrier deal of $7 million in credits (not actual dollars) to save 1,100 jobs but don’t have any problem whatsoever spending much more actual dollars on their farce.
Jill Chancre?
Like TN we have 2 lg counties Dem controlled crooked Memphis, and Nashville, which are just big cities of dems in Conservative small town counties, Shelby and Davidson, and they out vote the counties.
And we have voter ID, but you get your Voter’s registration through Motor Voter for the most part where proving you are a US Citizen is not checked, except if apply for a CCW permit.
You're all right, all of you who understand that Hillary gained 22K votes due to counting of provisional ballots (and possibly a few absentee ballots that had been initially rejected).
But the information from Tennessee Conservative sounds plausible. How could Philadelphia County have performed a genuine investigation of tens of thousands of provisional voters, such that HIllary ends up with a 22K net gain?
Do they send an election worker to each provisional voter's address to confirm that the voter actually lives there? I find it hard to believe they could have done such a large task in such a short time. Government never works that fast!
Considering they only recounted the inner city polling sites.
Obama cannot delay the inaugural.
My thoughts too. The left actually wants blood in the streets because as usual it will be others shedding their blood, not them.
I really hate these people.
It's still an uphill battle. First, they need to create a narrative using delay tactics, cheating, and highlighting only favorable irregularities.
Next, they need favorable local officials and en banc rulings of the U.S. Courts of Appeals in the 3rd, 6th and 7th Districts. The Supreme Court will vote 4-4 to affirm the Courts of Appeals or 5-3, depending on how Kennedy is feeling that morning. But either way, the Court order will say "I'm with Her", and temporarily swing the electors to Hillary. The appeal will go to Congress.
(The Court decision will be one of the most outrageous of modern times, because it will invalidate the State Legislatures' legal right to resolve the dispute and nominate the elector slate directly.)
Congressional filibuster rules could stall the outcome at the ballot reading on January 4th. They shouldn't, but it would be a sign that the GOPe is contemplating a deal.
It is possible that Congress will simply take the Legislatures' electors over the Court's electors. But that would involve either a) congressional cojones, or b) the consent of the liberals. It would be easier, I think, to throw out the disputed States entirely and proceed to a contingent election.
It will be a temptation for Ryan and McConnell to simply continue the stalemate indefinitely and let either Ryan or Hatch become acting president on January 20th (by resigning their legislative careers). Yes, very tempting. Those types might find it even more tempting to pass and let John Kerry take over. But I suspect popular outrage will allow things to move forward.
Once Congress does vote, Trump and Pence will unfortunately need the GOPe. The House, voting by states, should be a lock for Trump. But Pence will need two-thirds of all Senators to be sitting and present for the Constitutional quorum, even if he only needs 51 votes in the end. If the liberals walk out, the vice presidency will be vacant until January 20th.
On January 20th, then, Trump can invoke the 25th Amendment and nominate Pence. (Depending on one's definition of vacancy.) Or, he can change his mind and nominate his daughter. But I assume he'll stick with Pence. Again, Pence will need 51 votes. The GOP has 52--of Collins, Murkowski, McCain, Flake, and Graham, he can lose only one. If we lose Louisiana, yikes. On the D side, hopefully Manchin and Heitkamp may come to the rescue. Filibuster rules will again come into play, but this time at 60 votes.
And perhaps McConnell will use this moment to horsetrade. Pence will be allowed to win, but the Dems will be allowed to filibuster the Supreme Court nominee. Or the repeal of Obamacare. Or this, or that.
So now is the time for Trump and Pence to remain very, very popular with the GOPe.
Hard to see a federal court overriding PA on this - plus, I’d wager Trump has the better legal team....
They control the military, so they have nuclear weapons, drones, fighter jets, MOABs, heavy bombers etc. So they have better than guns.
They are full of denial.
If that somehow happens, Claire Wolf's "inconvenient time" is over.
If the president/vice president issue is somehow not resolved, Øbama is out of office at noon on 20 Jan 2017 and whoever is Speaker of the House at that time becomes president.
Yeah, but they may not have the loyalty of the people controlling those drones, fighter jets, MOABs. When confronted with killing their own relatives and neighbors, our soldiers won't forget their limp-wristed POTUS sending them into battle with one hand tied behind their backs.
Article does not say SCOTUS. Probably federal judge shopping. That said, directly from article:
“Further, Pennsylvania law does not allow a court-ordered recount, they argued, and a lawyer for the Green Party had acknowledged that the effort was without precedent in Pennsylvania.”
The Green Party is asking to break PA law.
Sorry but philly has over 1.5 million residents compared to Westmorelands 360k. 20,000 provisional or absentee ballots in philly is absolutely correct and believable.
Hillary also got over 80% of the vote there winning by more than 450k.
There is always fraud in philly, and the fact she performed as well in philly as Barack, even though she managed not to do that anywhere else in the country is a pretty good indication fraud once again happened there, but these 20k votes or so aren’t evidence of it.
What most people fail to realize is that Trump has been involved with so many lawsuits in his life that he has a lot more experience at ‘The Rodeo’ than they do. It reminds me of the movie “The Untouchables”, when Sean Connery advised “Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.” If they want a fight, they will get one. Trump brings more experience and more ‘cohones’ to the fight than any Republican Candidate, ever. Those before him always assume that ‘right’ prevails. That is a bad assumption in a court room.
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