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The Fake Recount (Saturbray)
www.braylog.com ^ | 11/26/16 | bray

Posted on 11/26/2016 8:13:18 AM PST by bray

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To: kabar

Very good post.

The Democrats have a clear strategic plan: promote and facilitate immigration, both legal and illegal, and then harvest the votes that will become the basis for a permanent majority.


41 posted on 11/26/2016 9:44:59 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Alberta's Child
the best way to deal with voter fraud is to have Republicans engage in it on a massive scale. Then -- and only then -- will Democrats get on board with it.

No!

The best way to deal with it is to force election law and order on the RAT states. Opposition poll watchers should be mandated.

A photo ID should be required to vote, voting illegal aliens should be deported. Double voting college students should be expelled, and their loans rescinded.

Union-thug and other vote-fraudsters should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It should be a federal crime, and the penalties severe.

42 posted on 11/26/2016 9:45:09 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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To: Starboard
It is all laid out here-- Demographic Change and the Future of the Parties by Ruy Teixeira- June 2010
43 posted on 11/26/2016 9:51:38 AM PST by kabar
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To: bray

I wrote this before the Clinton campaign admitted they were behind this.


44 posted on 11/26/2016 10:08:53 AM PST by bray (The Silent Majority ROARED)
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To: generally
Keep in mind that direct representation was almost non-existent in this country when it was founded. The idea that every idiot who can breathe on a mirror -- and even many that can't -- should participate in the election of leaders in a free nation would have been completely alien to this country's founders.

We reap what we sowed when we changed all those standards of governance ... so maybe we really have no complaint when malcontents and misfits hijack the process.

45 posted on 11/26/2016 10:16:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: kabar
The worst thing the Republican Party can do is make the same blanket assumption about minority voters that Democrats have made for years.

Black inner-city voters are probably a lost cause. There's a reason why their voting patterns are the same as Indians living on reservations. But the Trump administration can make some great strides in molding an "America First" agenda that has strong appeal to Latin Americans who immigrated here legitimately. A recent immigrant who is now an employed American is a perfect fit for a conservative/populist agenda that Trump and the GOP leadership can bring to the table.

46 posted on 11/26/2016 10:20:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I agree with everything you've said there.

My point is that Democrats have strongly opposed any attempt to impose those measures. They will only stop opposing them when they are presented with irrefutable evidence that a radical right-wing candidate (by their own standards) stole an election by using the same fraudulent voting that they've been using for years.

47 posted on 11/26/2016 10:24:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Terry Mross
I remember Florida. But that was one state, and they thought they could get away with counting just a few counties and thus swing the election to Gore. I could understand if they thought that in the present election, that by re-counting the votes in a given state, that they might prevail. But this is a wholly different matter now that they are demanding recounts in three states, hoping to swing all three in Hillary's favor. It's preposterous. As I indicated in the prior post, if Stein wants to pay for an audit of her votes, fine. But the states should limit the counting to her votes only, and not count the votes of other candidates. That is none of Stein's business.
48 posted on 11/26/2016 10:25:10 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Alberta's Child

>> The idea that every idiot who can breathe on a mirror — and even many that can’t — should participate in the election of leaders in a free nation would have been completely alien to this country’s founders.

I totally agree with this and if it were up to me, we would move back to something closer to what the founders had in mind. At that time, only land-owners voted, with (I assume) the idea being that they were the productive citizens. I no longer think land ownership is a good test, but I do think that not being on welfare would be a good test. Those who are on the take should NEVER be allowed to vote themselves more from those who produce. (That includes Congressmen who vote themselves raises from the tax-paying public.)


49 posted on 11/26/2016 10:36:46 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Starboard

IDK about MI, but in WI the law says that any candidate who’s willing and able to pay for it can request and receive a recount. As I noted above, it won’t be so easy in PA.

Re the $. The bot was depositing 160,000 per hour, day and night, into Stein’s campaign treasury, until she had enough to cover all three recounts. A lawyer prominent with Soros has been pushing the recount strategy, which is one fact that points to a Soros connection.


50 posted on 11/26/2016 10:54:29 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: kabar
Agree with your facts but in order for us to survive and for our republic to survive, we must win them over and not simply write them off.

All humans want to be free and want to have an opportunity for economic success. We just have to make them see it and not continue to be slaves on the Democrat/Socialist plantation.

51 posted on 11/26/2016 10:58:47 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Drew68

“This is an opportunistic ploy by Jill Stein to fill Green Party coffers with funds raised by promising easily duped and heartbroken voters an electoral do-over that she has no intentions of delivering.”

Like they did in Ohio 2004.


52 posted on 11/26/2016 11:05:28 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Fantasywriter

They should have to pay for Trump’s personnal that will be there to monitor the recount. All expenses should be paid by Stein(& her backers?). I will wait for Obama to use the US Gov’t to help HRC like he did during the election.


53 posted on 11/26/2016 11:50:52 AM PST by DrDude (To the Victor go the spoils! Kick A$$ Trump.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, they won’t be convince, they must be defeated.

Every Republican controlled state should attempt to put in place amendments to their constitutions that would be hard to reverse mandating permanent sensible election standards (rights).

Congress and the Trump Administration should do all they can as well at the federal level.


54 posted on 11/26/2016 11:50:56 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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To: DrDude

Agree with you. Evidently this Stein woman actually has a record of pulling these shenanigans. I just read on The_Donald subreddit that she’s done it before. She uses these recount dramas as fund raising tools to keep the Green Party going between elections.

As you said, time to make it too expensive for her to pull these destructive post election stunts. (Though in fairness, I doubt she’s ever mainlined Soros’ $ before. Five million plus in two days; a pretty nice scam/haul by Green Party standards.)


55 posted on 11/26/2016 11:59:32 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: bray; All

As a side note to winning elections, please consider the following.

Planned Parenthood is an example of social Darwinism at work in the misguided Democratic Party imo.

After all, after decades of promising unconstitutional federal funding for abortions to win votes from low-information women, such women probably not understanding that the feds have no constitutional authority to tax and spend for such a purpose, the Democrats have now suffered the consequences of aborting likely new Democratic voters imo.


56 posted on 11/26/2016 12:07:36 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: kabar
kabar :" The causes of voter fraud stem from such things as early voting, outdated voter rolls,
green card holders voting illegally (there are 15 million of them at any one time), and a lack of oversight. "

And also, lack of "Rule Of Law" Enforcement
by those with the responsibility and authority to do so.
Disinterest ..meh !

57 posted on 11/26/2016 12:17:51 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Fantasywriter

I hope some white hats are looking into this.


58 posted on 11/26/2016 12:26:04 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I hope so too. But I’m not worried that the recounts will change the outcome. Even if they make any kind of progress in WI, they’ll go nowhere in PA. Trump’s margin is too big, and it’s almost impossible to get a recount at this stage.

One thing to bear in mind. Trump is not the average Republican. The Dems are used to cheating without consequences, but if they try the usual tricks on Trump, they’ll wish they hadn’t. He knows how to fight back—and his supporters will be behind him at every step.

If the DNC wants to stink like manure for years to come, they’ll try something illegal in the recounts. Otherwise, there is nothing to fear.


59 posted on 11/26/2016 12:58:21 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The Trump DOJ needs to start investigating Soros from day one. Expose this POS for his dirty dealings and prosecute him forthwith.


60 posted on 11/26/2016 1:18:14 PM PST by Starboard
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