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David Plouffe: What I Got Wrong About the Election
The New York Times ^ | November 11,2016 | DAVID PLOUFFE

Posted on 11/11/2016 5:26:45 PM PST by Hojczyk

Like many people around the world, I expected a comfortable Hillary Clinton victory on Tuesday. But I’m not a random pundit when it comes to understanding presidential races and the electorate — I managed one Obama presidential campaign and oversaw another from the White House. So of all the forecasts that got it wrong, my prediction that Mrs. Clinton was a 100 percent favorite was a glaring miss.

My confidence was not partisan spin. It was based on public data, voting history and some sense of the Clinton campaign’s own models. I played with various state scenarios, and even in the most generous outcomes, could not get Donald J. Trump to 270 electoral votes.

But he ended up winning 306 electoral votes and, most important, did it by breaking into the Upper Midwest, leaving the blue Big Ten firewall in ruins.

What happened? We will know much more when all the data is in and we can see exactly who voted. But based on what we know, it was a combination of several factors that led to this stunning upset.

STRONG AND WEAK CURRENTS BEAT DATA AND ANALYTICS The models for both support (vote share) and turnout were off significantly. It appears that there really were hidden Trump voters, meaning his ceiling of support was higher than most of us believed possible based on polling and modeling survey responses. And millions of potential Clinton voters who the models suggested would vote stayed home.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Snickering Hound

The MSM seems to have a blackout on mentioning the effect of the emails released by wikileaks. They seem to agree that Hillary’s historic levels of corruption laid bare in Wikileaks had NOTHING to do with this “surprise.” I’m guessing all their projections ignored teh possibility that TRUTH might escape into the public eye and spoil all their proejctions. Now, of course, Republican “HATRED” is blamed because they will never admit Hillary’s and her DNC were taking over the electoral process so effectively (i.e., Bernie) that this was our last chance at a fair election. Literally the last chance.


61 posted on 11/11/2016 7:15:29 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Hojczyk

I think it’s simpler than all that stuff we hear. The MSM was the willing propaganda wing of Hillary Clinton. Many of them knowingly lied about internals, externals, slice and dice data. They tried to, per Podesta emails, win by telling the electorate it was already over weeks ago. The whole thing was political propaganda common to the Soviet Union days. They failed to win and now are exposed AGAIN as faithless, traitors who willingly manipulate public opinion if promised access and prestige (power sharing in return). They are sellouts extraordinaire and all this pontificating about “How did we get it wrong?” is really “Lie to them so they won’t hold us accountable as traitors/propagandists.”


62 posted on 11/11/2016 7:21:02 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Hojczyk

And millions of potential Clinton voters who the models suggested would vote stayed home.

Dude don’t read FR, I can tell you that. If he popped in here ONCE in the last 6 months he’d have been schooled.


63 posted on 11/11/2016 7:38:50 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: Hojczyk

If you want to have some fun, feel free to read his twitter for the past several months. Very condescending! https://mobile.twitter.com/davidplouffe


64 posted on 11/11/2016 8:57:31 PM PST by BallparkBoys (RESIST WE MUCH! ....We must, and we will much, about that, be committed!)
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To: Hojczyk

Might have something to do with running the worst candidate ever


65 posted on 11/11/2016 9:25:19 PM PST by Stopthethreat
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To: Hojczyk
Dave, what you got wrong was your candidate. She didn't campaign. Whether it was medical or mere arrogance or both, she didn't feel any need to connect with her base. While Trump was running three rallies a day she was drinking scotch with heavy rolling donors at private parties. She thought the whole thing, like everything else in her lamentable life, was for sale. She spent double what Trump did and found out different.

Powerful people, or people who consider themselves powerful, tend to make assumptions about how American politics works centered upon themselves. She had the money, she had the machine, she had the connections. Trump was making speeches to arenas full of middle-class Deplorables who would never make it past the doorman in the Hamptons. Problem is, they voted.

Hence the hubris that leads people with swollen heads to err in fundamental ways, not only Hillary but her staff as well. That they are not as important as they think is, I suspect, a very hard lesson. Most of us normal people learn it in early adolescence. Hothouse flowers might live and die never learning it at all, but when they do, it tends to be a pretty rough lesson.

66 posted on 11/11/2016 9:46:47 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Hojczyk

Rule One: NO PLOUFFETERS!


67 posted on 11/11/2016 9:48:13 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Hojczyk
My confidence was not partisan spin. It was based on public data, voting history and some sense of the Clinton campaign’s own models.

Which was all based on partisan spin.

68 posted on 11/11/2016 9:50:29 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Billthedrill
Not only did she not campaign, she was an ugly, unattractive old woman with a shrill voice that reminded everyone of their third-grade teacher from hell. Why would they think they could get out the Black and Hispanic male vote for her? I'm not saying a woman couldn't win, just not a woman like her. Plus, it has been glaringly obvious for decades that she just rode on her husband's coat tails—no woman respects that, especially the many women struggling to make it on their own.

It's stunning that the Dems blame the FBI for Hillary's legal issues, rather than laying blame at the feet of her own criminal choices. There is a very deep pathology at work here. Thanks God the people saw through it. We need to shake off that old flea-ridden blanket smothering our country and burn it in a joyous fire.

69 posted on 11/12/2016 5:29:36 AM PST by binreadin
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To: Hojczyk

If you want to have some fun, feel free to read his twitter for the past several months. Very condescending! https://mobile.twitter.com/davidplouffe


70 posted on 11/12/2016 5:49:15 AM PST by BallparkBoys (RESIST WE MUCH! ....We must, and we will much, about that, be committed!)
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To: Hojczyk
I believe it was Plouffe that tweeted before the election that supporters of Trump should be driven out of politics (or something along those lines.
71 posted on 11/12/2016 3:23:12 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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To: Hojczyk

A possible explanation is that he was lying before, and he’s lying now. It was hard to find a single MSM poll whose demographics weren’t comically skewed to support her. There were none that I found that even attempted to justify their demographics model.


72 posted on 11/13/2016 5:19:14 AM PST by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant of the intolerant.")
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To: Hojczyk

Serial wrong

Hell man..... you write for the Old Gray Whore. You are a lowly presstitute. there is no way you will ever be right


73 posted on 11/13/2016 5:20:33 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... What did the raped snowflake whine?)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Who wants to vote for a corrupt hag?


74 posted on 11/13/2016 7:56:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (LOCK HER UP!)
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