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My Parents Voted for Trump. And I Didn’t Try to Do Anything About It.
New York Magazine ^ | November 11, 2016 | Carl Swanson

Posted on 11/11/2016 2:59:59 PM PST by nickcarraway

I finally made the call to my parents Wednesday night, the call I didn’t want to make, even as the despair and disbelief felt by pretty much everyone I know turned to social-media chatter about the “not my president” protests and recriminations about what could have been done — what, if anything, each of us could have done to avert this dumbfounding moment of what’s next for this country.

There is a recurring fantasy among the so-called cosmopolitan elites, perhaps especially urgently felt among those of us who moved to New York from somewhere else that felt too constricted to accommodate us or who we could be, that we could coax and argue other people — people out there — into our state of supposed enlightenment. That there could be a real discussion going on here, of good-faith people, who only needed to be shown the error of their thinking.

To tell you the truth, I didn’t want to just assume that my Republican parents voted for Donald Trump. My mother had mentioned a sympathy for Bernie Sanders and his “rigged economy” critique, and my father was a career military intelligence man who spent most of that time parrying the dark intentions of Soviet Russia. But I usually avoid discussing the election, any election, or politics, generally, with my parents, who are southern by heritage, military by multigenerational tradition, and Christian in some well-what-else-would-we-be sense of dutiful conventionality. It’s been a delicate enough thing for us to engineer a relationship — to be fair, having an arty urban gay son without interest in joining the Navy or watching NASCAR wasn’t exactly what they were picturing when they had me, either — even without an election season like this one.

But as I sat in my East Village bedroom while my boyfriend, Kendall, watched Atlanta in the other room, and they had me on speakerphone from their house in Virginia, I already knew the answer. They have two gay sons — plus a daughter who worked for a while for Pat Robertson, but that’s another story entirely — but their (eventual) acceptance and embrace of us and our partners did not extend to the logic of who they supported at the ballot box. They could be one person at the holidays, and another in their personal convictions.

Kendall, who grew up very differently than I did, in a housing project in Detroit, was more scared than I was of a candidate who appealed so brazenly to racists, who talked so openly and (barely) codedly about “law and order.” Kendall’s family — black working-class people, mostly, who are so proud of him for finding his way out to achieve his dreams in New York, and are quite sweet to me, even as they find me a bit of a curiosity — was fully terrified. How dare we, after eight years of having a black president? To him, and his family, this was an about-face, a retreat to some American white-supremacist mean.

I’d never told Kendall this, but Trump often said what I knew my father felt. Not the misogynist stuff, but the tone of disgust at the blithe self-dealing of many in Washington. Which I admit at first I found a bit thrilling, especially early on, when he was heckling the GOP primary candidates on their Club for Growth–approved pieties and blatant hypocrisies. Yes, Trump seemed to me as disingenuous as any confidence man, willing to say anything he thought might help him close the deal, but part of why he was so effective was that, to my ear, about a third of the time he seemed to be the only person onstage willing or perhaps able to tell the truth about anything. It was fascinating. And it reminded me of the nationalist nostalgia of my father, his impatience and suspicion. My mother, who grew up poor in Appalachia, is more oblique in her views, but just as stubborn.

And from where they were, in their riverfront home in Virginia, which my mother does her best to run like a four-bedroom Downton Abbey, it all makes sense. Or, rather, there was little to contradict it. As my mother pointed out, she would have been surprised if anyone around them voted for Hillary Clinton. When we go for holidays, Kendall calls it the Plantation House, which it looks a bit like, though in fact it was a rather grand farmhouse built by bootleggers in the 1920s. Then there’s that portrait of my great-grandmother, an old Virginian with the landscape view of Robert E. Lee’s plantation behind her.

I love my parents, and they love me, and I know that I am of them, a kind of remix of them. But like millions of Americans, my parents were convinced of Hillary Clinton’s core perfidity, and nothing would change their mind on that. And so they got over their skepticism of Trump’s vulgarity, and cherry-picked among his inconsistencies, and thought maybe this change, whatever it is exactly — they weren’t sure — was worth rolling the dice on. And besides, as my father, who is 71, put it, they might only have a couple more elections left to vote in, and we can always try again in four years. To my mind, they confused nihilism for nationalism. And in the end, their reason for voting Trump was, What the hell? At least it’s not her.

Which left me wondering: What if I had tried harder? Even if you think you have the righteous prophetic fact-y dudgeon of a John Oliver, he has probably never changed anybody’s mind — you wouldn’t be watching him unless you already agreed with him — and listening to my parents talk about Trump, I was reminded about how depressing it is to hear talking points tumble out of the mouths of otherwise sentient humans. I got a little riled up. I told them they were not taking responsibility for their actions when they called it, essentially, a protest vote. (They didn’t think he’d actually win.) Which is an odd thing to tell a septuagenarian determined to stand athwart history and yell: Hold up! But history keeps rolling on, eventually burying us all in its wake.

My brother and his husband have three adopted kids. My parents love being grandparents: They take the kids, who are biracial, to Disney World and the beach. On Thursday, I texted my brother to say, “I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am disappointed in Mom and Dad.” He responded: “? Did you discuss the election?” We wondered if we should have tried to change their minds. “I guess I’m not engaged enough to invest,” he texted back. “Which is also sad.”


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To: nickcarraway

This just oozes condescension.

So, he thinks how he and his urbane sophisticated New Yorkers, who moved to New York because they were held back in their former locales, are just obviously more enlightened and knowledgeable than their relatives left behind.

And seeing the election results, he laments that if only he had tried harder to convince his ignorant hick parents that Trump is the 2nd coming of Hitler and all that horse sh”” , then this poor boy would have a clear conscience.

Amazing thought process which liberals have. They are smarter than everyone else. Somehow they feel its their job to convince others. These same liberals lambast anyone who would try to tell them how to vote or what to think.


21 posted on 11/11/2016 3:15:13 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nickcarraway

Looking at this photo I say that Carl doesn’t like girls.


22 posted on 11/11/2016 3:15:23 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: nickcarraway

Little twerp is exactly why the American people voted for trump


23 posted on 11/11/2016 3:15:37 PM PST by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: nickcarraway

If his parents are such upstanding folks, why do they encourge their son being a faggot?


24 posted on 11/11/2016 3:16:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: nickcarraway
Hey Carl! gaydar photo:  youtry.jpg
25 posted on 11/11/2016 3:16:43 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: nickcarraway

Can you imagine the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans looking at these crybaby millennials? Even the French might be thinking of taking us out, just to put it on their historical resume...’hey, we kicked a superpower’s ass back in 2017...’


26 posted on 11/11/2016 3:16:49 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: nickcarraway

“my father was a career military intelligence man who spent most of that time parrying the dark intentions of Soviet Russia”

I don’t know his father, but I have about a 90% certainly a man like that would not be okay with Hillary’s reckless flaunting of security procedures or selling uranium to Russia in exchange for bribes.


27 posted on 11/11/2016 3:17:08 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Father knows best.


28 posted on 11/11/2016 3:17:16 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: nickcarraway
But like millions of Americans, my parents were convinced of Hillary Clinton’s core perfidity, and nothing would change their mind on that.

His parents sound smart, I hope they cut him out of their will.

29 posted on 11/11/2016 3:18:22 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: nickcarraway

“There is a recurring fantasy among the so-called cosmopolitan elites, perhaps especially urgently felt among those of us who moved to New York from somewhere else that felt too constricted to accommodate us or who we could be, that we could coax and argue other people — people out there — into our state of supposed enlightenment. That there could be a real discussion going on here, of good-faith people, who only needed to be shown the error of their thinking.”

And there you have it...the problem.


30 posted on 11/11/2016 3:18:31 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: nickcarraway
Kendall’s family — black working-class people, mostly, who are so proud of him for finding his way out to achieve his dreams in New York, ...

Sounds like Kendall's family may have voted Trump also.

31 posted on 11/11/2016 3:18:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nickcarraway

If only you had called them racist homophobes a few more times they might have gone for Hillary.


32 posted on 11/11/2016 3:19:42 PM PST by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Luke21

His picture screams ‘lisping speech impediment ‘ with plenty of ‘mincing’.


33 posted on 11/11/2016 3:20:12 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance****)
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To: nickcarraway
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

I mean this in the literal, English sense, and not in the sense actually intended by John.

What we believe has always been there for them to understand, and they do not understand it. But we understand them, and they do not even realize that.

We get your jokes about us. We get your sarcasm about us. It isn't that we don't get it; we simply don't find it amusing. You're smug, supercilious, and for mysterious reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of your "morality," sanctimonious.

I find it unceasingly remarkable that so many children who believe themselves capable of great "subtlety" of mind believe that they somehow arrived there by their own bootstraps. We are largely what we are because of our parents, in ways they could control (culture, upbringing, environment) and ways they could not (genetics.)

This poor soul thinks that the same abilities that have led him to where he is are not present in his own parents -- an impossibility in so many ways -- and gives them no credit whatsoever for the same powers of reflection and reasoning he so smugly attributes to himself. It doesn't occur to him that his parents haven't explained their vote to him because they hold his opinions in a contempt similar to the contempt in which he holds theirs, but, in the wisdom of their age, they have not tried to convert him. They do not write articles on whether they should have tried to "convert" him, because they know how pointless it would be.

So he confuses their silence for an embarrassed acquiescence. But far more likely, they are simply tired of his politics and are not interested in his opinions.

34 posted on 11/11/2016 3:21:21 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: lacrew
my father was a career military intelligence man who spent most of that time parrying the dark intentions of Soviet Russia

Father didn't look after his boys and something happened.

35 posted on 11/11/2016 3:21:22 PM PST by donna (Donald Trump won!)
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To: Boogieman

Exactly.


36 posted on 11/11/2016 3:21:44 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance****)
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To: Luke21

.......or a sign on his back saying “Kick me”.

; )


37 posted on 11/11/2016 3:22:46 PM PST by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: Boogieman

“..about a 90% certainly a man like that would not be okay with Hillary’s reckless flaunting of security procedures ...”

I can virtually guarantee it.


38 posted on 11/11/2016 3:26:39 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: nickcarraway

-—cosmopolitan elites-—

are actually Urban Ameriphobes

A queers lament

He must run back in the closet where it is safe


39 posted on 11/11/2016 3:27:36 PM PST by Thibodeaux (Exile Barack, Exile the Wookie, Exile Malia, Exile Shasha)
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To: IronJack
my father was a career military intelligence man who spent most of that time parrying the dark intentions of Soviet Russia

He couldn't do anything about it.
40 posted on 11/11/2016 3:28:29 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo smart)
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