Posted on 10/23/2016 8:36:38 AM PDT by rb22982
Trump: 42.7%
Clinton: 41.3%
Johnson: 7.1%
Stein: 4.2%
Undecided:4.7%
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Any poll that shows Trump up is an outlier. That’s their story. They won’t ever mention them. That includes Fox.
THe Push polls have begun their traditional foolishness.
Trump will gain this coming week. I think the truer picture is that Trump is actually at 51% , pulling away from Clinton who is at 42 %
That’s why the MSM and the talking heads are doing all of their caterwauling. They are over the top desperate.shrill , propagandists gone amuck.
I saw one talking head this morning say to a Trump Campaign manager, “How do you sleep at night. I won’t let my kids watch Trump on TV!”
What a laugh.
Governance by emotion and traducing of logic. That s actually fascist.
Probably about right - and half of that Johnson/undecided vote will actually go to Trump, and half the Johnson/undecided/Stein vote will stay home. That 42% for Hillary has been seen in so many polls that it is starting to look like a ceiling.
Listening to MSM sources, whether their tired Sunday morning shows, their dumb @$$ evening news, and whatever other putrid pseudo news offerings - is the equivalent to inserting glass shards in your ears. You want to listen to garbage good luck because garbage in, garbage out.
I don’t watch Fox News. Just GOPe shill stuff.
What is it going to take for that half to see the light???!!!
Simple, the media has to report it.
NO! NO! NO! NO! Lol...
"We do need to move these numbers up" on these less more legitimate polls wtf? Syntax much?
Yeah, I'll have some of that. No Clinton has ever won a PV majority. This is a plurality-only election either way.
#2 - I already posted the IBD/TIPP poll earlier today which showed Trump up 2 - not only is it a "valid" poll - in fact they were the best in the last 3 presidential elections
#3 - Rasmussen also has Trump ahead +2 and is a more normal poll
#4 - none of the polls are really that scientific and do what they use to - 30-40% of the population doesn't have a phone line, there is no single cell phone director and the cell #s are ported all over the country, only 5-6% of people actually answer the phones and many polls use internet responses just like the PPD. Then the pollsters try to figure out who the 30 to 40% are lying about their intentions to vote (roughly 9 in 10 registered voters will say they are voting but only 60%-65% show up) and then most will re-weight those results to what they think the projected turn out for either D/R/I or by demographics (by age, race, etc). Pew reported after they and many other missed 2012 that various assumptions made their poll spread by as much 8% delta from what they reported.
yes, its similar methodology to other online polls. They then weight by race, age, religion, etc. Same thing the LA Times does and really all online surveys (all online surveys must come from some random directory of emails and participants).
Agreed. But the enthusiasm gap MUST be taken into account.
Anybody know what a 13 point lead in enthusiasm means in terms of voting percentage points? even a guess?
Those numbers show Stein at 4.2%, doing better than her customary 2-3%.
Those stats sure seem to show how these 3rd party voters could influence the election.
Together Johnson and Stein are about 11% of the vote, so, a number of those voters are surely, not solid in their support of Johnson or Stein.
Please explain to me WHY Trump isn't ahead by 50 points?
And don't tell me it's because at least 50% of Americans are too stupid to think without the MSM telling them what to think.
How do the pollsters take into account the massive voter fraud the Demonrats are famous for? Is that just part of the Demonrat vote numbers?
How do the pollsters take into account the massive voter fraud the Demonrats are famous for? Is that just part of the Demonrat vote numbers?
What if people are beginning to see it, but the media doesn't report it. It is not in their interest. They are loath to report about the unethical coordination between the media and Hillary's own campaign. Now to push the narrative they want, they have to resort to Dem +12 samples on a poll to get the result they want to headline.
In about 3 weeks, we're going to have a reality check.
Many of them will re-weight based on historical turnout of D/R/I (eg: the IBD/TIPP poll has Trump up +7 with their raw data on even D:R turnout but for some reason re-weighted to +8D which pulled the margin down to +2%. (D+8 is very generous - Obama didn’t even get that, I just don’t think IBD/TIPP wants to be too much of an outlier)
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