Posted on 10/21/2016 6:41:05 AM PDT by rlmorel
James O'Keefe has produced documentation in his Project Veritas endeavor which has produced two videos that I know of to date (which can be found on Youtube as well, Part 1: Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies and Part 2: Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Frauds.
I have watched these two videos, and the content astonishes me. But let me clarify that they do not astonish me the way they might astonish or startle many Americans, because the tactics are not new, I have seen evidence of this before, and being enough of a student of Liberalism to understand it better, I realize this is who they are and how they function.
I took the time to read Alinsky's work, and to read the books Obama has supposedly written as well to better understand the actions and tactics of liberals, and while absolutely none of it has surprised me, it has certainly disgusted me, particularly Alinsky, who is a demi-god to most upper ranking liberals today, significantly Obama and Clinton.
So, that doesn't surprise me at all that they are inciting violence, engaging in voter fraud, and breaking election laws left and right. As James O'Keefe says in the first video, there is strong evidence of criminality.
What surprises me is the level of smug arrogance the leftists in these videos exhibit, openly bragging about their activities, and the realization they feel obviously empowered to do this because they believe their backs are covered by the Administration, DNC, and other arms of the government populated under direct control of leftists "down with the cause" of liberalism and the tactics used to advance it. Arms such as the FBI, the DOJ, etc.
This is what the last eight years of Obama has brought to us.
The reason I am starting this thread is to discuss why this is not taking hold. It simply isn't because the news media is suppressing it, which they clearly are. It isn't because the candidates and national parties don't want to discuss it openly, which they don't. There is more to it. On the face of it, this should be exploding even with those factors.
the video is irrefutable. It is specific. It has times, places, and people.
It isn't video taken out of context, it is completely in context.
It isn't audio that might be faked. It is video of highly recognizable people, in expected locations, speaking on camera.
The people aren't nobodies, rogue operators, fringe players, autonomously operating on their own. These are two significant players who, between them, have visited the White House nearly 350 officially recorded times, and met PERSONALLY with the President of The United States 40+ times. Forty times. Watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that. Nearly 350 visits overall in eight years to the seat of American political power, and met personally with ostensibly the most powerful political figure on earth. Again, watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that.
When I saw this video, it impressed me as having the potential to be the most significant political developments in modern American political history. It should be generating a 9.6 earthquake on the political Richter Scale. Why isn't even barely registering, even taking into account the media and national party attempts to suppress it?
I recognize there are many factors at play, and it has only been a few days since this video was released. The Watergate scandal took several weeks to begin percolating.
I have also been told that these to key players, Robert Creamer and Scott Foval, are bit players, unknowns. My response to this is two-fold: First, these two men are not unknowns. They have been to the White House hundreds if times, Robert Creamer has even been photographed shopping with Michelle Obama. Secondly, in the past, people like Virgilio González, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis were real nobodies, and that didn't stop a political tsunami.
So, lets talk. What is this, why is this, in a time when it should explode with shock waves to the top of the White House and DNC, is this quietly sitting there?
Meanwhile, 'Merica can be found mesmerized with Oprah/Dr. Phil/TMZ/Reality TV ad nauseum....
VOTE TRUMP.
If a tree falls in the forest with no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? Remember that old saw?
The internet may be a bubbling cauldron of outrage among conservative partisans—but if the major public networks and major newspapers don’t cover it—and their commentators don’t discuss it, then it doesn’t make a sound.
Especially for FB.
....and at the hand of the REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!
Ain't heard much from them about this now have we?....and I'm NOT talking about the GOPe, but the GOP.
The media, the dumbing down of the masses, the “low-information” voters who have been benumbed by a poor quality education.
Anyone looking at this as a war can see that the mechanisms of disseminating information must be wrested away from the Left. Members of the Right need to “infiltrate” these places - go for careers in journalism, teaching, etc.
You can tune out the media all you want. You can choose not to send your kids to public school all you want. Your absence from in front of these propaganda machines is NOT why almost 50% of America believes what they see/hear.
There are many voters in this country who are perfectly comfortable with a corrupt -- even diabolical -- government.
Yep. Other media is impacting - YouTube, twitter,social media in general. Hillary and her globalist cabal want to censor these as well.
MSM is only still around because the globalists/corporate and political elites prop it up as their agitprop vehicle. Oh and also dupes with zero brain cells to think for themselves.
If you make shorter versions you are accused of “editing” and taking out of context.
LOL! Hmmm. Who would I rather believe...... Some Project Veritas videos or the ever trustworthy clintoon cabal. Wow, that’s a tuff one. I think I’ll go with PV for $1,000.00 Alex. ‘-)
If it’s not obvious to you at this point that the (dying, thankfully) mainstream media is not part and parcel “down with the cause” every bit as much as if not more than the DNC, and every appointed official in the federal government, and really the vast majority of upper-level Republicans as well, then you really haven’t been paying attention for the last 16 months. This is a take no prisoners battle of that segment of the American people who can see what’s going on against all of that.
Sometime you should consider visiting 4chan.org even though it’s chaotic and look at how young people communicate these days:
they used MEMES.
the political point is made in probably 10 seconds or less.
basically we are living in Idiocracy.
the attention spans of most people have shrunk considerably.
I love O’Keefe and I hope he continues but viewers cannot be held for very long these days. we see that on YouTube and we see that in the emergence of memes.
IMO we should have been decorating lamp posts in Washington when the first Tea Party march happened (which if you only watched the news you would never had known it happened), and actually long before that. I remember reports that Nancy Pelosi actually feared exactly that happening and with good reason.
Conservatives are god fearing law abiding people and I expect most are still hoping for a peaceful outcome. Donald Trump is the last hope for that peaceful outcome....were going to try the ballot box one more time. After that.....
“...under 30 ...millions on social media...”
This is so right - it is percolating out there through social media and that is how the millenials are reached.
Co incidence that twitter, reddit, etc. have an outage today mainly affecting the east coast? Maybe not ...
Yup. My SO's eyes glaze over if I have news or talk on radio or TV. Cares not a whit about politics. Doesn't have the time or energy to dive in, and feels she doesn't make any difference, anyway. I try to explain how serious this all is, and I get "I believe you, but..."
Our pubic school teachers have indoctrinated America well. FUPST!
Because the media is NOT playing over & over & over again like they would do to a Republican President
I agree...and they need to have a printed copy available of the dialogue...it was difficult to listen to. (Maybe there is one?)
I think the whole things is blatant:
1) The Democrats have been 100% confident that Hillary will win, because they have lined up massive amounts of voter fraud for November.
2) The trick at the last debate was to get Trump to repeat the earlier “pledge moment” and simply agree to accept the results. After that, allegations of fraud would sound like a real sore loser and could get no traction at all.
Two things have gone wrong:
1) Project Veritas has provided proof of massive Democrat voter fraud.
2) Trump didn’t take the bait.
Now the Democrats are panicking and they are not sure if they can pull this off. Their only hope is that this stuff disappears.
They are already edited, so at the end of the short version leave the link to the longer version.
Has to be done.
This society wants to get right to the point and if the message is too long they will not listen.
Because it is not getting any drive by press and what it does get is negative.
Nothing will happen. Nobody will be indicted. Nobody will be impeached or even investigated. It will be swept under the rug.
The government is out of control on both sides of the aisle. At least 40% of the population are sheeple, 30% are remotely aware and not happy, 20% are simply ambivalent and maybe 10% are angry but don’t know what to do.
For the same reason that the obvious truth over the past 8+ years regarding the left has not generated any appreciable outrage.
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