Posted on 10/18/2016 2:19:39 PM PDT by cotton1706
GOP Presidential candidate Donald Trump announced on Tuesday his intention to push for a constitutional amendment setting term limits for members of both chambers of Congress.
Speaking to a crowd at a campaign rally in Colorado Springs, Trump spoke about his desire to “break the cycle of corruption” in Washington, D.C. if he elected president. The GOP nominee told the crowd it was time to “drain the swamp” of special interests. He recited portions of his newly unveiled ethics reform proposals and then told the crowd another major announcement which is part of his plan.
“If I am elected president, I will push for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress,” Trump said, as the room erupted in cheers.
YES!!!!
Bingo
You don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote.
You're on a public payroll, you don't get to vote.
Establishment’s worst nightmare. I fear for his safety.
So, in theory, is a term limit for the Chief Executive--including Presidents I like. But we have that, and I'm okay with it, as are most voters. It's because I can understand how limits help keep the swamp of corruption dry. The offices authorized by the Constitution weren't designed for lifers. They were for self-sacrificing men who had a life--elsewhere.
And a mandatory autopsy for all justices who die in office...
Easy to do.
Just adopt the same language as found in the Twenty Second Amendment.
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Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,
and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President,
for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President
shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President
when this article was proposed by the Congress,
and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President,
or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative
from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
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“Term limits is in opposition to the will of the voters”
We have one for the president.
People will get over it, and maybe start paying attention.
Repealing the 17th Amendment would go a lot further. As it stands now we are a democracy and we know how they end.
<>Term limits is in opposition to the will of the voters<>
Term limits help promote free government.
It was a part of Newt’s Contract With America, but Congress wouldn’t pass that one part!
Here you go.
Illustrations for a new era ‘THE AMERICAN REFORMATION’:
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AMENDMENT XXVIII (State Sufferage)
To restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.
Section 2.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years nor more than eighteen years.
Section 3:
The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
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AMENDMENT XXIX (‘Thirty-State Quash Authority’)
To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
Upon a majority vote in three-fifths of state legislatures, specific federal statutes, federal court decisions and executive directives of any form shall be repealed and made void in any state, territory, or possession of the United States.
Section 2.
State legislatures in agreement with results derived from Section 1 of this amendment shall sign a state quash authority directive delineating the specific federal statutes, federal court decisions or federal executive directives affected, said directive addressed and delivered to the Congress of the United States becoming immediately effective as of the date of delivery.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3423235/posts?page=949#949
Note that these illustrations are written SO THAT THE STATES ARE GIVEN RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY. Amendments should be written so that it is clear that the federal government has no mandate regarding the interpretation or selective enforcement or non-enforcement of these types of amendments.
For example, the flawed 10th Amendment leaves all powers not enumerated in the US Constitution to the States or to the People. However, there is no mechanism left to the states to check the federal government with the 10th Amendment save for the appointment of US Senators by state legislatures which was abolished under the 17th Amendment. As it is, the 10th Amendment jurisdiction is left to the federal judiciary without any voice or role for the States. The result of these compounded flaws has yielded a highly centralized federal government whereby power is attained by an enormous federal government and funded by the Federal Reserve.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3461988/posts?page=18#18
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Now is offered a new illustration for an Amendment XXX:
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AMENDMENT XXX (‘Sunset and Repeal of the 16th Amendment’)
To facilitate age-of-awareness connectivity to the necessary task of funding the federal government of the United States:
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Section 1.
All forms of federal taxation in the United States, and unto to territories of its jurisdiction, that are derived under the authority of the sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States shall be abolished by April 16, 2022 and shall be repealed immediately .
Section 2.
As of April 16, 2022, the sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 3:
Enforcement of federal tax liabilities shall cease as of January 1, 2025 with exceptions granted to active judicial proceedings initiated before January 1, 2025.
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By ‘Age Of Awareness’ means technologies of connectivity. These technologies did not exist in the 19th century and on to the 1913 installation of the 16th Amendment. Had such suitable technology existed, the 16th Amendment would never have been installed. The 16th Amendment is in fact, a poor design proffered by persons of poor judgment. It is completely unsuitable in the Age of Awareness.
They never leave even if they leave office.
the term limit on the presidency was in accord with the will of the voters
I see no such will for the congress
True, there are some concentrated here, but not general enough to prevail
B$. The approval of congress is about the same a cockroaches, but the re-electon rate is about 95%. The people re-elect their congressperson because they vote straight ticket.
Oh goodie another 4 for Obama then.
A Senator represents millions of voters and a Representative represents on average 700,000 voters.
There is no way possible for voters to be informed about who represents them except by mass media paid for by special interests and this leads to abuse.
So ‘opposition to the will of the voters’ is a non-sequitur.
But ....
To make your point, there is a means by Constitutional Amendment to make service in Congress more like voluntary military service but compelling a deterrent to a ‘career in ppolitics’ by denying pensions to representatives except for a one-time lump sum fixed amount after X years in Congress that is never augmented for any reason thereafter; AND for a felony in taking any income or consideration other than Congressional pay, housing, and necessary travel; AND a block grant to the state for X dollars for campaigning to be DIVIDED EVENLY amongst all nominees for the seat with all other contributions banned by law with felony consequences for all parties found in violation.
Take a stab at drafting such an amendment. A law won’t cut it because that alows the fox inside the coop, i.e. Congress will change the law but it will be much harder for them to force states to ratify a constitutional amendment.
SCOTUS rebuffed a state which undertook term limits on congressmen from its jurisdiction . . .
When I was growing up in Connecticut, the fist district only had 4 congresscritters - Dedarrio, Cotter, Kennelly and now the congresscritters in there now, John Larson, who acts like a conservative at home but in DC, votes like the Liberal he is....
Yes! TERM LIMITS for CONGRESS!!! I’m sick of ‘em staying
in Congress until they turn into ROCKS!! CYNICAL ROCKS!!
What the heck...
Nobody here knows term limits isn’t going to happen...?
Term limits was ALREADY ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS...
U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton
“States cannot impose qualifications for prospective members of the U.S. Congress stricter than those specified in the Constitution.”
Love Trumps idea, but does anyone think Congress will vote on a constitutional amendment to limit themselves to the goose that laid the golden egg...?
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