Posted on 10/09/2016 5:03:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
Ever since President Kennedy approved legalization of federal unions and then followed with the massive expansion of the federal government (which has occurred under both Republicans and Democrats), our government has become ever more invasive. If we elect Hillary Clinton she will make things worse. Here is the story of why we need to do this so badly.
This started with a simple tax filing. A client of mine wanted to apply as an innocent spouse. That is when you want to absolve yourself of any responsibility for tax returns filed because your spouse inordinately controls all the financial aspects of your relationship -- particularly the tax filings. Thus, the innocent spouse has no legal obligation for any taxes due. My client met the standards and we filed the form. The IRS told us they could take nine months to get back to us.
I received a call from an IRS agent who wanted to meet with me regarding my filing. She indicated that was the reason she wanted the meeting. I provided her a power of attorney which was only for the one issue – innocent spouse. She indicated there was some question about one year on the power of attorney, but she came to my office anyway. I was quite surprised the IRS wanted to address the issue at the time because it had only been two months -- much quicker than the nine months previously indicated.
When the agent got to my office she soon shifted her focus of discussion to demanding a copy of the couple’s marriage certificate. She stated (as an aside) she would recommend approval of the innocent spouse application and moved back to asking for the marriage certificate. It became apparent the IRS was going after the other spouse for something. I told her that my client getting the IRS the marriage certificate was a serious inconvenience and she should pursue the spouse. She got really upset with me and started to storm out when I asked for her supervisor’s info (she provided) and I asked for her card to which said she did not have one. I spoke to the supervisor who gave me some solace, but the entire situation left me unsettled.
Over the weekend, I thought back about all the discussions with the two IRS people. It was the most disjointed interaction I have had with the IRS during my 38 years of working with them. The fact the agent did not have a card, and neither the agent nor the supervisor had normal messages on their voice mail identifying them as IRS employees, now made me think that possibly the entire matter was a hoax perpetrated by my taxpayer’s spouse to gain information regarding his estranged spouse. He had money and he might just do something like that.
I spoke to the IRS supervisor and asked to speak to his boss. This person’s voice mail actually identified herself as an IRS employee. When we spoke I laid out to her the series of facts that made me believe her staff person was acting improperly; i.e., that the staff person had told me she was there regarding the one matter, but was really in my office to gain other information for which I was not made aware. I made clear what she had demanded and her request for the marriage certificate was inordinate and not even within the scope of my power of attorney. She stated she would get back to me.
The Big Boss got back to me a week later and informed me that her staff person had indeed misled me. She was on a third-party document information search regarding the spouse. The Big Boss stated that she was not even sure why the request had been made for the marriage certificate (which had blown up into a dispute between the agent and me, causing the degeneration of the situation) because she could just request it from the county clerk.
That is when matters turned even worse. I asked whether the agent was being properly admonished for her behavior of lying to me about why she was in my office. I was told by the Big Boss she could not tell me about that. I asked whether she could tell me whether anything was even being done. She told me she could not tell me that. She stated the IRS agent has rights. The Big Boss told me she had faith the agent was going to recommend approval for the innocent spouse application. I asked for a copy of the recommendation. I was told I could not have that. I told her I wanted to file a complaint about her regarding the entire situation. Then I told her I would not file that complaint if she provided me a copy of the letter recommending the approval of the innocent spouse application. She told me she would not even protect her agent against the complaint by giving me the letter.
I called the number the Big Boss gave me at the Inspector General’s (IG) office of the Treasury Department. Unlike no other prior experience dealing with the government, someone answered the phone promptly. They took the information I provided and told me someone would be back to me.
Again, unusually, someone contacted me promptly. Rick Bravo called and took the information I relayed above. He was very responsible and responsive. He sent me an email giving me my case number. I called him a few days later to ask him what the next step was and he indicated that was it for me. I asked him whether I would find out what happened with the IRS agent that had intentionally misled me. He said I could file a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request.
I found that to be unacceptable. I would never find out what happened. I would have to complete more paperwork and then someone who shows up to work on Tuesday afternoons will eventually process my request and provide me a spoonful of information. So I asked to speak to his boss.
That conversation went horribly. Bravo’s boss was defensive and condescending. He told me to file a FOIA request. I asked him why I could not know whether the agent was even addressed. He told me as a CPA I should be familiar with the Privacy Act. I asked him if he meant the Privacy Act of 1974 and he verified that. I said I accept that act might protect the discussions with the agent, but it did not protect telling me that there was a process and it had been completed, and I asked him to cite where in the act that was protected. He made a hostile reply. I stated I was going to quote him in a column on that, to which he said “Are you threatening me?” I replied that I am a journalist and I did not know that telling a public employee he would be quoted was a threat.
Here we are. An IRS agent comes into my office, wastes my time and purposely misleads me as to why she was in my office. I find that out and file a complaint against her. I am told the only way I can find out anything is by filing a FOIA request (that this government has significantly ignored for years). And then a supervisor in the Treasury IG’s office asks if I am threatening him by telling him I am going to quote him.
If you don’t think this country needs a major change in path and change in leadership, the only thing I can say is you are living in denial.
it needs to be overthrown by the Defense Department and we need to start all over again.
We are seeing a peaceful revolution take place because Mr. Donald J. Trump leads it. It will stay peaceful as long as he gets elected.
If by any chance Hillary gets in, all bets are off, no promise that the next revolt will be a peaceful one.
We are now faced with the prospect of the Supreme Court slipping into the vast gaping maw of the Clinton Corruption Doomsday Machine. Once that happens, we are done as a nation of citizens. We become a feudal society with the elites owning everything by divine right and all the rest of us living by their sufferance. And in the face of this serious likelihood, the GOPe have run, tails between their legs, thumbs in their mouths, to hide, clinging to the skirt-hems of the 5th column media for protection.
Exactly. Just the way the French "fixed" their government in 1789-1799.
You make a great point .. and I’m leaning that way too.
It’s a little scary, but I think it’s time to be willing to stand our ground.
Hillary has a reputation of a “potty mouth” .. but, she is also lying to two groups of people - saying her dream is open borders; but lately, she’s been saying we need a wall; so which is it .. it’s who will pay her the most money. So, she’s for protecting the country .. and she’s not ..????
And .. REALLY .. NOTHING .. NOTHING .. Nothing Trump said has put this country in danger.
Our media is certainly out of control....
The Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell crowd sure aren’t going to change things in this country and they got virtually unanimous support to be GOP leaders from the rank and file Republicans in the House and Senate.
I would sooner trust the NRA and the "Good Old Boys" defense department.
Look at our poor culture! What sort of government do we need to have in order to promote an American culture that isn’t driven by a dominant and inferior popular culture? Political and societal emphasis on image over cultural substance and life imitating art that exhibits more ugliness than it does beauty, is a threat to polite society. So how does more of polite society begin to enjoy more beautiful art with less political emphasis on the appearance of things? How can polite society save itself and by doing so, have a deep and genuinely positive influence on our popular culture? How can we turn it all around so that in the future it will be the reality(s) of a new polite society that drives a renaissance of American popular culture?
it needs to be overthrown by the Defense Department and we need to start all over again.
let me add that arrests need to be made throughout the government, we need people that will talk and indictments need to be handed down and a commission needs to be formed to follow thru to jail!
It is not totally under his control most of it hates him.
<>If you don’t think this country needs a major change in path and change in leadership, the only thing I can say is you are living in denial.<>
Changing the leadership of our country is little better than changing the driver of car on cinder-blocks.
Fundamental change to our governing structure is necessary, and that can only come about through an Article V convention of the states.
Oh, but they are being controlled-- by The Powers That Be, for purposes which do not include the general welfare.
"Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge among the people." --John Adams
“Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge among the people.” —John Adams
What “general knowledge” is today is something quite different than what it was in the beginning. We’re having a problem in deciding who the bad guys are.
Government of the government, by the government, for the government.
The taxpayer has rights, as well. The CPA should have been better prepared to quote them:
Taxpayers have the right to know what they need to do to comply with the tax laws. They are entitled to clear explanations of the laws and IRS procedures in all tax forms, instructions, publications, notices, and correspondence. They have the right to be informed of IRS decisions about their tax accounts and to receive clear explanations of the outcomes.
Taxpayers have the right to receive prompt, courteous, and professional assistance in their dealings with the IRS, to be spoken to in a way they can easily understand, to receive clear and easily understandable communications from the IRS, and to speak to a supervisor about inadequate service.
These are the one that most obviously apply to this case. There are more here:
Yes, I know this the IRS and they consider their compliance with the law to be at their discretion. But, a CPA should be better prepared to quote these when dealing with the IRS.
There is also legislation enacted in 1998:
You do not want to see DOD overthrow the government. If you think you do, you need (not want, NEED!) your head examined.
WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A vote for Hillary is a vote for war.
it needs to be overthrown by We The People and we need to return to the Republic and the Constitution.
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