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Poll: Catholics Support Hillary Clinton, Gay Marriage
National Catholic Review ^ | Aug 25 2016 | Michael O'Loughlin

Posted on 10/08/2016 5:02:00 AM PDT by daniel1212

More than half of all U.S. Catholics (52 percent) would cast a vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton if the election were held today, compared to just 32 percent for Republican Donald J. Trump...

More than three in four (76 percent) non-white and Hispanic Catholics would pick Clinton, with 13 percent choosing Trump.

Among white non-Hispanic Catholics, Clinton holds a much smaller lead, 44 percent to 41 percent....

Six in 10 (62 percent) white evangelicals say they would vote for Trump today, while 47 percent of white mainline Protestants pick Trump.

That comes from a new survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, whose findings mirror a similar poll conducted earlier this summer by the Pew Research Center.

Trump’s trouble with Catholic voters was foreshadowed during the primary season, when a group of reliably conservative Catholics urged their fellow believers in the Republican Party to resist Trump, even after he had all but sewn up the nomination.

Those concerns were renewed this week when The Hill reported on comments made by the newly tapped C.E.O of the Trump campaign, Stephen Bannon. The former head of the conservative website Breitbart News had accused the Catholic Church of supporting immigration reform only to boost its own membership.

“I understand why Catholics want as many Hispanics in this country as possible, because the church is dying in this country, right? If it was not for the Hispanics,” he said in March during a radio interview with Princeton University Professor Robert George..

Nearly seven in 10 (68 percent) of U.S. Catholics say they support same-sex marriage, up from just 35 percent in 2003. At the same time, Catholics are about split when asked if support for same-sex marriage goes against their religious beliefs (45 percent say that it does)... of the Catholic “Never Trump” movement.

About six in 10 Catholics (63 percent) say businesses should not be allowed to refuse services to gays and lesbians based on religious objections.

When it comes to how friendly religious institutions are to L.G.B.T. people, Catholics think better of their church than the American public does. Almost half of all Americans consider the Catholic Church to be “somewhat or very unfriendly” to L.G.B.T. people, with 35 percent seeing the Catholic Church as friendly.

The numbers are switched for Catholics, with 49 percent saying the church is friendly and 45 percent who say it is not.

While U.S. bishops have made fighting same-sex marriage a priority for several years, just 37 percent of Catholics report hearing the issue discussed by their priest in the past few months.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; catholicvote; hillary; hillary2016; homosexualagenda; novusordo; trump
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To: kearnyirish2
The Protestants have bishops espousing positions clearly counter to Christianity ...

Doncha just HATE it when leaders are exposed this way??



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

301 posted on 10/10/2016 5:30:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MamaB
Nope. Peter is not the rock. Jesus is the rock. I have seen on this site that Catholics do not even agree on things.

Some Catholics are unaware of this fact.


As regards the oft-quoted Mt. 16:18, note the following bishops promise in the profession of faith of Vatican 1:

 

 • Basil of Seleucia, Oratio 25:

'You are Christ, Son of the living God.'...Now Christ called this confession a rock, and he named the one who confessed it 'Peter,' perceiving the appellation which was suitable to the author of this confession. For this is the solemn rock of religion, this the basis of salvation, this the wall of faith and the foundation of truth: 'For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Christ Jesus.' To whom be glory and power forever. — Oratio XXV.4, M.P.G., Vol. 85, Col. 296-297.

Bede, Matthaei Evangelium Expositio, 3:

You are Peter and on this rock from which you have taken your name, that is, on myself, I will build my Church, upon that perfection of faith which you confessed I will build my Church by whose society of confession should anyone deviate although in himself he seems to do great things he does not belong to the building of my Church...Metaphorically it is said to him on this rock, that is, the Saviour which you confessed, the Church is to be built, who granted participation to the faithful confessor of his name. — 80Homily 23, M.P.L., Vol. 94, Col. 260. Cited by Karlfried Froehlich, Formen, Footnote #204, p. 156 [unable to verify by me].

• Cassiodorus, Psalm 45.5:

'It will not be moved' is said about the Church to which alone that promise has been given: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I shall build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.' For the Church cannot be moved because it is known to have been founded on that most solid rock, namely, Christ the Lord. — Expositions in the Psalms, Volume 1; Volume 51, Psalm 45.5, p. 455

Chrysostom (John) [who affirmed Peter was a rock, but here not the rock in Mt. 16:18]:

Therefore He added this, 'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church; that is, on the faith of his confession. — Chrysostom, Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew, Homily LIIl; Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf110.iii.LII.html)

Cyril of Alexandria:

When [Peter] wisely and blamelessly confessed his faith to Jesus saying, 'You are Christ, Son of the living God,' Jesus said to divine Peter: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church.' Now by the word 'rock', Jesus indicated, I think, the immoveable faith of the disciple.”. — Cyril Commentary on Isaiah 4.2.

Origen, Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII):

“For a rock is every disciple of Christ of whom those drank who drank of the spiritual rock which followed them, 1 Corinthians 10:4 and upon every such rock is built every word of the church, and the polity in accordance with it; for in each of the perfect, who have the combination of words and deeds and thoughts which fill up the blessedness, is the church built by God.'

“For all bear the surname ‘rock’ who are the imitators of Christ, that is, of the spiritual rock which followed those who are being saved, that they may drink from it the spiritual draught. But these bear the surname of rock just as Christ does. But also as members of Christ deriving their surname from Him they are called Christians, and from the rock, Peters.” — Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII), sect. 10,11 ( http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101612.htm)

Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II): Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God. On it we can base an answer to every objection with which perverted ingenuity or embittered treachery may assail the truth."-- (Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II), para 23; Philip Schaff, editor, The Nicene & Post Nicene Fathers Series 2, Vol 9.


302 posted on 10/10/2016 5:33:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
What is the RC basis for assurance for the veracity of what their church teaches?

We say so.

303 posted on 10/10/2016 5:34:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kearnyirish2
... someday you’ll explain to God how you regarded the mother of Jesus.

(That Rome has created.)

304 posted on 10/10/2016 5:36:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
You've been attacking him personally.

KILL! the messanger!!


305 posted on 10/10/2016 5:37:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: God luvs America

I judge ‘others’ every day.


306 posted on 10/10/2016 5:38:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: God luvs America
and Mike Pence is.....


307 posted on 10/10/2016 5:40:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

the von trapp family?


308 posted on 10/10/2016 5:44:44 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Caipirabob

This is basically what our wonderful young priest said in his homily yesterday. I’m sure he made a few of our older parish members squirm in their seats but the young families he is drawing in were all nodding in agreement. Don’t give up on the Catholics yet!


309 posted on 10/10/2016 5:45:33 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: metmom
And where in Scripture are we required to answer for our view of Mary?

Early on, Shrek continually tried to intimidate Donkey by roaring into his face.

Donkey just looked at him.




310 posted on 10/10/2016 5:49:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: God luvs America

AH!

You respond to pictures.


311 posted on 10/10/2016 5:53:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Emissaries of Satan.


312 posted on 10/10/2016 8:03:56 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: daniel1212

I don’t know what the source website represents, but it is absolutely infested by CINO pro-sodomy commenters.


313 posted on 10/10/2016 3:34:14 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: Wpin

It’s proven that children are much more at risk for sexual assault in public indoctrination centers. By teachers.


314 posted on 10/10/2016 3:36:51 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: samiam1972
Oh I will never give up on them. Three of the best people I know on the planet are Catholic and my children will make that five. I'm not but wifey is so....😀
315 posted on 10/10/2016 4:29:41 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Elsie
We say so.

We infallibly say we infallibly so.

316 posted on 10/10/2016 6:12:42 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: txrefugee
but why would White mainline Protestants and Catholics join the heathen bloc in voting for her?

Because the pope is a queer communist?

317 posted on 10/10/2016 6:17:30 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs......same thing.)
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To: Caipirabob

My dad converted when I was in my 20’s. My husband converted after we’d been married for ten years. He’s a better Catholic than I am now! :0) May God bless you and your family!


318 posted on 10/10/2016 6:44:34 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972
He’s a better Catholic than I am now!

Interesting...

Just what makes one Catholic 'better' than another?

In your opinion.

319 posted on 10/11/2016 5:14:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LurkingSince'98; daniel1212

You can’t intuit from words on a forum how “smug or Non smug” a poster maybe feeling. You have to be in the presence of a person to know what they are feeling(even then that can be a tricky proposition...people can be good liars). It is true however that one can intuit an accuser’s feelings by the label they choose to use on another poster. Daniel’s words may have stung you, hence you imagine he is being “smug” about it. In truth that is a shot in the dark I am making! Who knows what the both of you truly feel! You could both be paid Soros agents here to mess with FREEPER’s heads....?!


320 posted on 10/11/2016 5:46:22 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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