Posted on 09/24/2016 4:51:43 AM PDT by Liz
Edited on 09/24/2016 5:26:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The shock for Democrats if Clinton loses will likely be more severe than for Republicans if Trump loses. Two decades ago, self-described moderates, and even conservatives, voted in Democratic primaries. Not so these days. The slump in Democratic primary and caucus turnout, from 38 million in 2008 to 31 million in 2016, was due to a sharp decline in turnout by self-described moderates.
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If she loses I how that she and Chelsea and Bill spend the rest of their lives fighting and losing civil suits that were not covered under the amnesty given to her by the Obamanation of Desolation.
If that amnesty can be revoked?
But if Hell-ary wins .....there will be a mess for a long time !
Picture the nightmare !
It's not civil suits that are impotrtan for the Traitorobama and Traitorclinton kakistocracies, but their criminal trials, convictions and sentencing for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
A political party that can successfully run (twice) a jug-eared nitwit exchange student from Kenya as a candidate will never be out of power for very long. Trump is a unique character and an anomaly, not an indicator of a trend.
Not so these days. The slump in Democratic primary and caucus turnout, from 38 million in 2008 to 31 million in 2016, was due to a sharp decline in turnout by self-described moderates.
This misses a very important point: In 2008 the Democrats actually had a hotly contested primary, while 2016 was rigged for Hillary Clinton to win no matter how strong an opponent she faced.
And if anyone really thinks the Democrats would have a hard time recovering from a Clinton loss, just think about this:
When this election cycle began in late 2015, the Republican front-runner was JEB BUSH.
1. the last four years of Obama’s term has radicalized the left and alienated the rest.
2. The losses in smaller elections have wiped out up and coming Democrats for the future, including state houses, local elections, etc, thanks to radicalized policies the democratic leaders support
3. the Clintons have sucked the political air out of the room.
4. we have heard much of the glee from the press about what is happening to the republicans, but not a whisper otherwise
5. there has never been a greater divide between the people and the media/democrats. it is almost a disconnect. we are getting ready to do to the democrats what they have been doing to us for the last 8 years. Their shock is starting to show on their faces.
>>> important point: In 2008 the Democrats actually had a hotly contested primary, while 2016 was rigged for Hillary Clinton to win no matter how strong an opponent she faced.
To me, that indicates a sclerotic mentality has set into the ‘Rat party in the manner of the Soviet Politburo. Because ‘Rats operate by way of factional special interest groups, I think they are more prone to internecine strife (much worse than, for example, never-Trumpers). They can only avoid it if one group buys off ($) the rest.
...Of course, the way they have raided the trea$ury these past 8 years, that may very well be possible, too.
I have even less faith in the (cough) "Dem political process" that "elected" Obama than you do.
Voter fraud was the one and only reason Obama got in.
Keep in mind, Dems are too stupid to win elections without utilizing voter
fraud. Crooked politics is the only thing they know. Besides, once exposed,
the cowardly vote fraudsters cut and run.
This is all due to the fact that Democrats have become a party of extremists, radicals, and single-issue lunatics. They’ve drifted farther and farther from the mainstream while seeing their shrinking back yard as the entire world.
There’s really nothing they’re good at — defense, foreign policy, the economy, infrastructure — because of their slavish devotion to class politics and style over substance. And people are starting to see that they have no answers except more of the same.
Recent 2016 electoral map resembles 2014 midterm map----
----the year the Democrats got slaughtered----
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UPDATES NM and Colo look like Trumps's. After Hillary's
limp response to the NYC bombngs, NY might also go Trump.
2016 is an electoral projection map.
2014 is Congressional race results.
There seems to be a lot of wishful thinking going on.
The rats are driven by a long term strategic focus. They’ll win some, they’ll lose some, It’s all about moving forward with that focus. They never, ever, give up. And we subsidize a large number of their activists.
If they lose the 2016 election, they’ll regroup quickly. In a matter of months. Rest assured that chuckie schumer and the san fran witch will not give an inch voluntarily. By the time 2018 rolls around, they’ll be ready for it.
Otherwise, I agree. The fight will have only begun. The enemy will not be vanquished as some seem to think. They have too much time invested, and have been able to successfully indoctrinate our youth that will take generations to change. In fact I myself see little hope in combating the damage that has been done to our future society. But try we must, and we must also not celebrate one minor victory.
After all, as soon as Reagan left office the process began again and in 4 short years Poppy Bush had undone all that Reagan had accomplished and paved the way for 20 years of even greater degeneration to a point where America is no longer even recognizable to many.
I would look to someone like Victor Davis Hanson to answer the question, “Where do we go from here?”
Things are definitely coming unraveled and there are a number of directions we can go from here. I am reminded of Tsun Tzus advice about knowing one’s self and knowing the enemy. We really need a good picture of just where we are in the unraving process. We need a good picture of what the different directions things can go are and we need to do our best to influence things into directions we wish to go. Being herded along clumsily like sheep is dangerous.
Good Ms. Clinton and future Mr. Obama should all be in exile.
Loses? Former gang members Hillary, Barry, Kasich, etc., should be in federal prison with the rest of the Gang of 535 and their well-paid henchmen in bureaucrat agencies contaminating the republic.
From citizen to President. A patriot could knock out the Bush cabal and the Clinton cabal in one cycle.
One of the greatest Americans in the last 200 years.
HOORAY Trump
I don’t see us being herded along like sheep. Far from it. In Trump’s campaign I see almost a textbook analysis of the concerns articulated here for a long time.
Keep in mind, the many Obama flops......for instance, the moron was so dam sure we would all riot and act uncivilly at his eternal E/O’s taking away our rights, that the basshole had a civilian strike force ready to roll........
Never happened.
No.
Remember in 1972 when Michigan and Maryland Democrat primaries went to George Wallace? And how George McGovern, a raging moderate by modern Democrat standards only won one state in November of that year? Then Jimmah Carter, a moderate ( stupid but moderate) won the election? Even Bill Clinton who worked with Republicans during his terms is but a distant memory.
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