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The study ignores that Obamacare is economically unsustainable and is going to implode if allowed to continue.
1 posted on 09/23/2016 9:57:12 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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The 20 million to lose coverage are illegal aliens.


2 posted on 09/23/2016 9:58:48 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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And how would Hillary do that?

Total B.S.

We’re out of money honey! Tighten the belt!


3 posted on 09/23/2016 9:59:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Forty-eight days until we take measures to end this nightmare. Trump, for the Free World...)
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19.9 million of which are illegals I would bet.


4 posted on 09/23/2016 9:59:18 AM PDT by albie
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How many million lost healthcare under the Obamacare disaster?...............


5 posted on 09/23/2016 10:02:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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Good. If you can’t pay, don’t expect the rest to provide you with freebies.


6 posted on 09/23/2016 10:02:54 AM PDT by sagar
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I didn’t know that either of these candidates had a healthcare plan.


7 posted on 09/23/2016 10:03:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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They will not lose coverage under the Trump plan.

He has already said that those who pay will pay but he’s not letting anyone die in the streets.

How often do these people get to mischaracterize his words before it all stops....election day, I suppose.

My preferred method is a healthcare tax credit with all healthcare costs deductible and healthcare sold on the open market nationwide. And, of course, we still have the Good Samaritan laws. No one will like critical health care, and critical health care is the issue.


9 posted on 09/23/2016 10:04:57 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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David Blumenthal - leader of Commonwealth Fund, who did the study.

From Wikipedia- During the U.S. presidential campaign in 1987-1988, Blumenthal was chief health advisor to the Dukakis campaign. Twenty years later, in 2008, he was senior health adviser to the Obama campaign. On March 20, 2009, President Obama appointed Blumenthal to be the National Health Information Technology Coordinator, just a month after the enactment of a federal stimulus package that included about $19 billion in incentives, by Medicare and Medicaid, for the adoption of electronic health records.[1][5]

10 posted on 09/23/2016 10:05:00 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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The 20 million are either illegals, or are getting near total premium support. In that case, they aren’t really insured in the normal sense of a premium paid to a private insurer—they are on government insurance through a fig-leaf intermediary, paid for by the taxpayer. How is that different from Medicaid, except for the details?


11 posted on 09/23/2016 10:05:38 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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From the article...

When uninsured people wind up in the hospital, the cost of their treatment gets shifted to others, including state and federal taxpayers.

...and this is different from Obamacare, how? Seems to me that the money is getting spent, and the author is debating which pocket it should come out of. Makes me question their authority on the subject.

14 posted on 09/23/2016 10:07:29 AM PDT by wbill
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Obama was going to put them on Medicaid anyway.


15 posted on 09/23/2016 10:09:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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about 20 million to lose coverage ..

The illegal aliens.

18 posted on 09/23/2016 10:11:07 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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to my understanding, no one NEEDS health “coverage”.

People need affordable prices to pay doctors, labs, services, when needed.

If doctors had spines and did not surrender to the “system” this could be simply worked out.

too many lawyers, big Rx, insurance and such mucked up what should be a patient doctor transaction.


19 posted on 09/23/2016 10:11:33 AM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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The entire story focuses on who would gain or lose coverage under the Trump vs. Clinton plans. One itsy bitsy little thing was missing from the story — how much all of this costs. Hillary’s plan would drive us further into bankruptcy and substandard health options. Trumps would re-invigorate market-driven healthcare that is truly affordable. Bias anyone?


21 posted on 09/23/2016 10:12:29 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Santa Cruz Sentinel- enough said


22 posted on 09/23/2016 10:14:07 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (when the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you Leary is this)
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Noting that I will gladly Vote Trump, please consider the following.

Patriots are reminded that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes. So Obamacare is unconstitutional regardless what lawless Obama’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices want everybody to think about the constitutionality of Obamacare.

Patriots need to get constititionally low-information Trump up to speed on unconstitutional federal healthcare.


24 posted on 09/23/2016 10:17:49 AM PDT by Amendment10
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A new study that examines some major health care proposals from the presidential candidates finds that Donald Trump would cause about 20 million to lose coverage while Hillary Clinton would provide coverage for an additional 9 million people.

Does the study mention that more than 20 million lost their health care under Obama? Does the study mention that Obamacare never really picked up those who had no health care?

Does the study mention that Obamacare provides few, in some cases, zero options for selection of heath care providers?

Does the study mention the skyrocketing cost of health care in terms of co-pays, monthly premiums, coverage, and out of reach deductibles?

25 posted on 09/23/2016 10:45:05 AM PDT by olezip
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Very true. Like Trump says, it’s going down on its own, so he he will repeal and replace it.

I think a key point lost in this debate is healthcare insurance coverage and actual healthcare. If the deductibles are so high people still can’t afford to pay for needed care, or there are no doctors available, what good does insurance do?


26 posted on 09/23/2016 11:14:06 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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The IRS is notifying 20 million right now.


27 posted on 09/23/2016 11:17:17 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Just to see the word “study” headlining an article is cause to not read it at all, knowing it’s just slanted BS with little or nor significant real facts or truth. Just opinion, often from the left.

Then when studies, such as global warming related, get “computer models” made, which are created by people with opinions, to make it look scientific, it just pegs the BS meter so hard the needle falls off.


28 posted on 09/23/2016 11:19:52 AM PDT by redfreedom
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