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Scientists tell Donald Trump: Climate change is real
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 09/20/16 | Lisa M. Krieger

Posted on 09/21/2016 6:10:05 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: tbw2
It is not settled science that “man-made pollutants are responsible for theoretical long term changes in the temperature. Solar and terrestrial dynamics are far more powerful and influential than cow farts.

Global warming is a political tool of the UN to distribute wealth and undermine sovereignty. I reject every last phony bit of data from the left.

81 posted on 09/21/2016 7:37:45 AM PDT by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: Awgie; tbw2

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82 posted on 09/21/2016 7:44:45 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

well HiTech, the short answer is that we can’t “know” since we weren’t there with recorded data under the true scientific method.

however, historical/statistical (not scientific) methods could be deployed to make conjectures based on those historical assumptions.

but always remember, friend, it’s always the victors and cheaters who write “history.” not the vanquished.


83 posted on 09/21/2016 7:53:05 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: artichokegrower
Yes...climate change is real. We live on a planet with a dynamic and ever changing atmosphere and environment. It is driven by a dynamic and ever changing star. It is the way the machinery works.

Now...Anthropogenic climate change? THAT is a completely different thing.

84 posted on 09/21/2016 7:54:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: artichokegrower

Well, sounds like Trump has some spare toilet paper now.


85 posted on 09/21/2016 7:57:34 AM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The hypothesis of the day is that physical and chemical effects of the atmosphere have driven this, while the Sun has kept on faithfully shining like it was some constant reference in the National Bureau of Standards laboratories, or close to it.

I have heard the sun is increasing in temperature as it enters into its next phase, but the timeline of this would cover our last few ice ages. So... I pretty sure climate change is a result of taxes aren't high enough and we don't have a big enough government.

86 posted on 09/21/2016 7:57:39 AM PDT by GregoTX
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To: artichokegrower

These yahoos must think Trump is going to win the Presidency of the United States.


87 posted on 09/21/2016 8:08:36 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: alloysteel

Well said!


88 posted on 09/21/2016 8:12:35 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: artichokegrower

Dr. Schneider died in 2010. Why are they using his picture? And he’s a mechanical engineer.

Dr. Santer has a lot of political awards and activities. Perfect for this sort of thing.


89 posted on 09/21/2016 8:17:27 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PGR88
"No doubt there are also 375 highly acclaimed scientists who will also declare climate change is a fraud."

How about 37,500...?

But REAL scientists don't play the "consensus is science" game...

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Screw the whole 375 or 37,500 bit!

Give us ONE (1) REAL scientist with solid, irrefutable data and a fact-based analysis!

90 posted on 09/21/2016 9:19:08 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

The Earth is some 4,600,000,000, that’s billion, years of age.
As the wise Greeks discerned from observation, cyclical change is a hallmark of our existence; such as birth, death, growth, decline, light, dark, cold, hot and all the rest of the phenomenons embedded in Nature. These allowed them as well as the natural philosophers of the High Middle Ages; Priests who were the first formal scientists; to develop and define the Laws of Gravity, Mechanics, Motion, Thermodynamics, among dozens. To this moment they explain our physical world.
Contrast that w/the 2 most ballyhooed notions of the last 150 years; Evolution and Relativity. Both are unproven speculations: Theories. Tell that to the next science asshole who insists that the moderns have surpassed the their predecessors in knowledge and wisdom.


91 posted on 09/21/2016 10:04:14 AM PDT by Arrian
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To: catman67

Bingo!!


92 posted on 09/21/2016 10:06:53 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Arrian
Ignorance on display.

Relativistic time is well-proven. Without compensating for its effects, navigation of Saturn-mapping spacecraft and, even, the GPS (for example) would not be possible.

I happen to be a physical chemist who is also a believer in Divine Creation.

What kind of "science asshole" (your own scatological term) do you purport to be?

93 posted on 09/21/2016 10:22:45 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

So you’re what? A Pharmacist???
They’re labeled the Theory, not the Law, of Evolution and Relativity for a very good reason which obviously you never noticed.
The doofus predictably reverts to form when unnerved; wave a credential!!!
My core point was simple. Modern types, in particular pretentious intellectuals w/degrees, are mere pygmies who see as far as they do, only because they stand on the massive shoulders of the giants of the past.
They couldn’t shine the shoes of the Greeks and Scholastics, the pillars of Western Civilization who managed to define our world. And they achieved all this w/o degrees,not grasping how deprived they were, the poor unfortunates.


94 posted on 09/21/2016 12:21:08 PM PDT by Arrian
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To: artichokegrower

Reminded me of an old Twilight Zone episode, The Midnight Sun.

I’ll watch it again...


95 posted on 09/21/2016 12:32:48 PM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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To: artichokegrower

Climate Change is Real, but manmade cause of climate change is dubious.

People walked from Asia to North America over land. People walked from mainland Europe to Great Britain over land.

Those two pathways have changed, by dramatic climate changes LONG BEFORE manmade atmospheric gases.

Lush grasslands have become barren deserts, from climate change, long before manmade causes.


96 posted on 09/21/2016 12:35:30 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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97 posted on 09/21/2016 5:05:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables)
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To: artichokegrower

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98 posted on 09/21/2016 5:07:04 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: artichokegrower

So let’s destroy the US industry and economy based on these false scare tactics— so then China will be the one who manufactures everything and we will be at their mercy. How brilliant!


99 posted on 09/21/2016 5:11:57 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Psalm 144

They may not be climatologists, but they are bullshit artists, FER SHURE! FER SHURE!


100 posted on 09/21/2016 5:11:57 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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