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How pension deal went wrong & cost California taxpayers billions [OPPS Dems Off by 1/4 TRILLION $$ ]
Los Angeles Times ^ | Sept 18,2016 | Jack Dolan

Posted on 09/18/2016 4:12:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone

It was a deal that wasn’t supposed to cost taxpayers an extra dime. Now the state’s annual tab is in the billions, and the cost keeps climbing.

ith the stroke of a pen, California Gov. Gray Davis signed legislation that gave prison guards, park rangers, Cal State professors and other state employees the kind of retirement security normally reserved for the wealthy.

More than 200,000 civil servants became eligible to retire at 55 — and in many cases collect more than half their highest salary for life. California Highway Patrol officers could retire at 50 and receive as much as 90% of their peak pay for as long as they lived.

Today, the difference between what all California government agencies have set aside for pensions and what they will eventually owe amounts to $241 billion, according to the state controller.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; economics; pensions; unions
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Vote Buys come home to rost.

Soon we shall hear cries form LA Raza tat that "immigrant" are forced to pay for retirements of whites!

1 posted on 09/18/2016 4:12:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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Vote Buys come home to roost.

Soon we shall hear cries form LA Raza that that “immigrant” are forced to pay for retirements of whites!


2 posted on 09/18/2016 4:13:03 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Hillary's nominatin = 60's Violence. "Constant conflict is actually often good politics"-Clinton)
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Run screaming from California, and let the Progtards pick up the tab. :)


3 posted on 09/18/2016 4:13:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: NoLibZone

Trust me - audit the fund and the Demcratic / union leeches will be revealed. Punish accordingly with prejudice.


4 posted on 09/18/2016 4:17:50 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: NoLibZone

Vote buys come home to roost in California. It would be easier to list the states that do not have unfunded pension liabilities.


5 posted on 09/18/2016 4:22:34 PM PDT by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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Run screaming from California, and let the Progtards pick up the tab. :)

Our daughter moved to Texas last month, and she is trying to convince us to move there after my wife retires next Spring. If it weren't for the weather ...

6 posted on 09/18/2016 4:23:07 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: NoLibZone

Nancy Pelosi says that she’ll personally cover any shortages.


7 posted on 09/18/2016 4:23:29 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NoLibZone

Also, CalPers was a victim of State Street Bank’s (Boston) fraudulent money “management”. They settled in a payment but the damage was done. That “bank” ripped off public pension funds all over the country, it amazes me none of their disgusting managers aren’t in jail...friends of Barney Frank I guess.


8 posted on 09/18/2016 4:24:17 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: NoLibZone

This is quite a surprising article for the LA Times.
Excellent in fact.
I wonder why they did it.


9 posted on 09/18/2016 4:25:27 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: kiryandil

You can run but you can’t hide from irresponsible bankrupt states and cities.

When the economic SHTF, the Federal Reserve and gov’t will harmonize state tax systems for national recovery.
Barrack said you gotta “eat your peas” whether you like it or not.

Research state and international tax and monetary harmonization and look what you’ll find, position papers galore...

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RE: “Run screaming from California, and let the Progtards pick up the tab. :)”


10 posted on 09/18/2016 4:28:56 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: CatOwner

If you’re in California and you can, MOVE! There is a financial disaster and everything you have will be in jeopardy.


11 posted on 09/18/2016 4:30:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My Maserati does 185.)
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To: GreatRoad

yes, that 56 million that was more than paid back in fines totally accounts for the state being 250 billion underwater in their pension assets. You must be an accounting genius


12 posted on 09/18/2016 4:30:57 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: NoLibZone

With 55 Electoral votes Dems know they don’t even have to keep track of anything they do.

The other States will cover the short falls.


13 posted on 09/18/2016 4:31:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Hillary's nominatin = 60's Violence. "Constant conflict is actually often good politics"-Clinton)
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If you’re in California and you can, MOVE! There is a financial disaster and everything you have will be in jeopardy.

Yeah, we're in California. Both my wife and I (and our daughter, until last month) are born, raised, and worked in California all our lives. As I mentioned, the weather in Texas may be a no-go for my wife and I. Other than that, there is little keeping us here once my wife retires next Spring.

14 posted on 09/18/2016 4:38:47 PM PDT by CatOwner
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Run screaming from California...

I reluctantly left California (my home for 40 years) last year. I do love the state as a locality, as land as diverse as the lowest desert in North America to the highest mountain in the lower 48 states. Love it for its magnificent coast line, wonderful weather, gorgeous spring wildflowers after a wet winter, and too many other things to list here. But I hate the politics of California and what the Democrats have done to the state.

I'll always miss California, though. :(

15 posted on 09/18/2016 4:39:48 PM PDT by Avalon Memories
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Just wait until they get hit with the next recession. They’ll be even further behind.

Now I know these employees worked and contributed to these benefits, but the California portion is simply ridiculous. A 25 year old works for 30 years, retires at 55, and can get 3% times the years served. That’s 90% folks! Even worse, we’re not talking 90% of a low, “public service” salary. These employees are paid very lucrative salaries to start with compared to the private sector.


16 posted on 09/18/2016 4:41:44 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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Freepers! - What goes around comes around.

The “Administration” has rigged interest rates so that they can borrow absurd amounts of money at little or no cost. Idiots that they are, they did not realize that that the very same interest provided the funding to the pension plans. I suggest that these people all be left to their own devices, or ‘take a haircut’ like bondholders have to do. Also, dare I suggest that all the parties to the pension agreements be charged with fraud?


17 posted on 09/18/2016 4:44:36 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: buckalfa

Few states are not affected, especially with ZIRP.


18 posted on 09/18/2016 4:44:54 PM PDT by zek157 (Frederic Bastiat was a prophet for these lawless times)
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To: GreatRoad

Not mentioned in the article werected the many favored that received a fake promotion their last year sometimes doubling their peak salary and thus retiring for more than they ever really earned in a year.


19 posted on 09/18/2016 4:52:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Avalon Memories
I reluctantly left California (my home for 40 years) last year. I do love the state as a locality, as land as diverse as the lowest desert in North America to the highest mountain in the lower 48 states. Love it for its magnificent coast line, wonderful weather, gorgeous spring wildflowers after a wet winter, and too many other things to list here. But I hate the politics of California and what the Democrats have done to the state.

I'll always miss California, though. :(

This is what my wife and I are working through right now. We'll both be retired next Spring, and the decision is to whether we'll follow our daughter to Texas, who permanently moved there last month.

The weather and our love of the coastline makes this a brutally hard decision. But the people and the cost of living here are huge negatives. The fact that our daughter would love for us to move closer to her just adds to the dilemma.

20 posted on 09/18/2016 4:52:42 PM PDT by CatOwner
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