Posted on 08/28/2016 9:04:12 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
The media pumped up film " Southside With You", the story of the first date between Michelle & Barack Obama bombs badly on it first weekend release with a miserable three (3M) revenue intake. The movie finished #13 among the movies this weekend, not a good showing at all. Nothing more needs to be said!!! The horrible revenue numbers speak for themselves.
Blair Witch was the most successful indie movie in history, and still has the great ROI in cinema history. It’s a bit of an outlier.
Much better comparison would be Hands of Stone, also released at 800 theaters Friday, $1.7M revenue. Or the Atlas Shrugged series:
300 theaters $1.6M
100 $1.7M
250 $450K
The fact is any movie that doubles its budget in the first weekend is successful. Doesn’t matter if that budget is $1.5M, $20M or $200M, if you double it in 3 days you’re successful.
it looks like a 5 minute short to run for the toadies at the Dem Convention - for free!
That’s why Teenage Mutant Turtles are a keeper.
Are there 3 or 4 of them. Plus all the wonderful comic books, games and wan’t there a tv cartoons?
“Southside With You”
Winner of 18 Academy Awards! Best Fiction and Non-Fiction. Best Animal Documentary. Best Comedy and Best Drama.
You can bet on that.
Rotten Tomatoes gives in 93% fresh tomatoes...of course. Every left-wing screed gets ridiculously high fresh from the left-wing critics. Pffft!
Audience gives it 58% fresh, shockingly high. More white guilt?
The whole point of the movie is to grab up Academy Awards.
More white guilt?
Inscent smokers and bath salt snorters?
Bomb away.
Barky campaigning for hitlary also turns out to be a dud.
Top: Do not want!
Bottom: Yeah, baby
YES! It’s Creature Feature all the way.
You cannot judge the profitability of a movie by comparing production cost with theater revenue. That would be voodoo accounting. There are, among other things, marketing and distribution costs that have to be added. And, of course, the theaters themselves get a large piece of the revenue.
You absolutely CAN judge the profitability of a movie comparing production cost to theater revenue. In fact that’s the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY to judge it. Yes there’s all kind of weird accounting that goes on around it and also have the marketing, and no actually the theater don’t usually get a large piece of the revenue (standard distribution contract that the theater gets 20% of the first week, their percentage slides up over the weeks, but by the time they get a large percentage the movie has bled out and is making nothing). But in the end there’s only a few numbers we know for sure:
production budget
revenue
And if the first weekend’s revenue is twice the production budget that is a successful movie, period.
20% is a large piece of gross revenue compared to the standard net actually received by many distributors, like bookstores, of other “creative” activities. A former colleague of mine was a partner in a modestly successful movie production company back in the 1970s and 1980s, and he also was part owner of an independent art house movie theater in a college town. He told me that published revenue and cost figures in the movie industry were completely meaningless from a financial perspective. He finally sold his interest in both the production company and the theater because of his frustration over the opaque accounting.
It’s really a hidden charade carried out by the industry in total. The film production, the advertising cost, the cost of theater usage...all on sliding scales so no one can track anything. Usually the release weeks revenue of 40-50% goes to the film production, 20-30% of that revenue goes to the theaters, then there are residuals that go to various folks in the production. it’s all smoke and mirrors. However, this failed Obama movie will not generative enough money for Harvey Weinstein and John Legend to buy a decent cup of coffee!!! Lots of the movie cartel taking it in the shorts on this farce, fiasco!!! The theaters want no part ot it!!! They will drop it, like a bad habit!!! Actually movie revenue across the board is dying on the vine!!! The revenue flow this year is horrible. Just do an in-depth reve of this year’s version of GhostBusters. It’s a financial nightmare....across the board!!!
1/5 is NOT a large piece. 1/5 is a small piece.
Well if you’re going to insist the data is fiction, then it’s all fiction and we have no idea if the movie was successful or a failure, which makes the entire discussion pointless.
It had a $3 million opening weekend for a movie shot on a $1,500,000 budget. I imagine Hollywood wishes all its movies were bombs like that.
“Barky Buys a Beard”
Roger Ebert died in 2013.
I know quite a few salespeople and distributors who would love to receive a “small” 20% of the final transaction value. 10% or less is commonplace.
As for the movie industry data being mostly fictional and the entire discussion pointless, ... that was my point. I have no idea, given the published production cost and box office revenue figures, whether the movie about the Obamas is or will be financially successful, and nobody else does either.
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