Posted on 08/03/2016 6:44:43 AM PDT by Angels27
Trump: 45.3% Clinton: 43.7
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Here in Grand Rapids, Mi, I’ve seen 2, up from one since last year.
Number of Bernie signs? Still over a dozen. The bumper stickers are far more than that.
Number of Green Party signs? 1
Number of Trump? About 8 in the northern blue collar part of the city.
Surprisingly for as leftist the central part of town is, there are virtually no signs.
With that said, this is the ONLY poll showing a Trump lead.”
This new poll is either going to be the most accurate poll in history...a little nugget of truth among the rest which will be exposed as pure propaganda.
Or, this new poll will be a false hope for us.
I don’t guess we know yet.....that’s why these months before an election are always so difficult.
The methodology worked in 2012. So fingers crossed....
I do think the polls skew Clinton at this point, but mainly because they are registered voter polls as opposed to likely voter polls. That will change after Labor Day.
This USC poll is going to have a large sample size, it continues to grow. They expect the sample to have about 6,000 people by November. Also, they weight for D/R/I and likelihood of voting.
Whether the methodology is sound remains to be seen. But it is an impressive sample size, much larger than the typical Drive-By poll.
Not only were Obama’s ratings over 50%, but also there were enough people who were going to stay home instead of voting for Romney. I don’t think that this sort of situation is the case now for Trump.
“The poll is dated July 16”
Put the cursor at the very end of the graph. It will give you the the result of the polling through 8/2.
I totally agree with that
Wow... This is telling!
It is only the Media whores who are propping her up.
The methodology worked in 2012. So fingers crossed....”
I was not aware of that. Was this methodology used by this outfit in 2012? Or was another pollster using this methodology? Do you have recollection of that? You have definitely piqued interest! :)
I never seen an election like this in my life, the absolute viciousness and venom by the media and BOTH parties to get a damn pathological career criminal into office, what reality am I living in? This is absolutely insane, its like trying to make a Manson girl President
The USC poll?
Trump needs to completely ignore Kahn, like he doesn’t exist. Let Kahn make stupid statements instead. I wonder if he thinks Bill Clinton dodged the draft?
It was introduced under the RAND name in 2012 which has been rebranded for LA Times, but the same team that developed it is still involved. Something like fourth most accurate for Romeny/Obama ??
This is not the current data. That is July 16.
Put the cursor at the very end of the graph. It will give you the the result of the polling through 8/2.(per angel)
Yup. Remember how here on FR when we have articles about the media, they sometimes include the words "Dinosaur Media Death Watch"? Well it appears it is not the case, or they would have had lesser impact if they were truly dying.
Can we ditch that phrase please?
Which makes me think they are going to steal this election like they did Romney.
“Has anyone seen any Hillary yard signs or bumper stickers? I live in Massachusetts and only saw one bumper sticker in 1 year.”
I live in Dallas County, Texas. Democrats outnumber Republicans here, like most metro areas, but still, I’ve only seen one Hillary sticker since the campaign began.
My general sense of rank and file Dems, is that they’re unenthused about their candidate, and maybe even somewhat disappointed that their party didn’t give them someone more attractive and inspiring to vote for. Hillary is long past her ‘sell by’ date, and the voters know it. I think it’s going to be like pulling teeth to get them to the polls in November.
I was feeling the exact same as you, but I'm wondering if the pundits who are also moaning about the "stumbles" and as you said, "unforced errors" being a truly negative impact on his chances.
But now I'm thinking that the Trump Train is just building momentum and power no matter or perhaps in spite of the disarray in Trump's ability to narrowly focus on the issues and avoid counter punches that are unneeded.
Perhaps the bottom line is that the negatives from the current regime keep coming and the electorate is simply FED UP with the status quo. That the pundits are so badly missing this is going to wind up as a huge crate of egg on their faces, especially folks like Chris Stirewalt.
https://alpdata.rand.org/?page=election2012
looks like their final numbers were: obama 49.5%, Romney 46.1%
The actual numbers were, of course: obama 51.1%, Romney 47.2%
So they were obviously right on the winner, their spread was 3.4% and the actual spread was 3.9%. That’s pretty close.
Of course they were off in that obama was polled under 50% in their final poll, but got 51. I guess their final poll still allowed more of an “undecided” than the real world election booth allowed. (I do think it is accepted that “undecideds” broke towards obama....unlike the conventional wisdom that “undecideds” break towards challengers...so maybe that accounts for obama’s lower numbers ...except Romney’s numbers are also lower...in any event, this is a minor point. The bottom line is that they were correct on winner, and pretty darn close on the spread.
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