One, don't shoplift. And two, if you're going to restrain someone, you had better know exactly what you're doing.
Had they been police officers restraining the man, they would have been in trouble, too.
Who was the woman pounding him (Wisham) with her fists?
If they use the Clinton defense, no intent to cause harm, then they will get off as they should.
Reading the whole report it sounds like there was a bit more going on here. Normally, you don’t break 15 ribs falling to the ground and being restrained. That is more than half his ribs, unless he stole a rack of ribs, in which case there were 15. Even knocking someone to the ground should not result in 15 broken ribs. Maybe he has osteoporosis? I wish they had been clearer on the mechanical asphyxia. They probably sat on him after they broke his ribs.
Just as well...the fella had been up to no good his whole life. He resisted his lawful apprehension.
Shoplifting, misdemeanor petty theft and felony grand theft, are epidemic at the Walmart down the street. Also vehicle break-ins & thefts, assaults, drugs. Awful...and I live in a “safe” town. This is the store at which a skinhead shot & killed the manager, causing Walmart to phase out the sale of handguns. Magnet for society’s dregs.
I am fairly certain that Walmart specifically prohibits employees from chasing shoplifters out of the store, which appears to be the case.
These employees really screwed the pooch.
15 broken ribs
Shoplifter’s lives matter.
“.....if you are going to restrain someone, you had better
know exactly what you are doing.”
You hit it right on the head. I have worked for a
residential treatment facility for the past 18 years. We work with severely emotionally disturbed teen
boys. At times some of them need to be restrained for
their own safety and the safety of others. We
receive many hours of training every year. Part of the training includes trainees reading from cases
taken from the Internet regarding kids who died
of suffocation resulting from faulty floor
restraints. It is truly sad and eye opening. We
have had both kids and staff injured in
restraints but have never had a kid pay the
ultimate price.
Just seems to me that if you are caught in the act of committing a crime; you forfeit any and any right to protection, including being beaten to death. If you don’t like the risks, don’t do the crime.
I would love to be on that jury. The Walmart workers would have NOTHING to fear.
And don’t elect to do hard prison time for Walmart.
Ken felt it was worth his life to steal from WalMart.
Who are we to question his choices?
And the very reason I tell people that citizen arrest is a really bad idea...no qualified immunity.
Police officers are trained to restrain people and recognize that positional asphyxia is a real threat. That’s why you get them handcuffed and rolled over to sit upright, providing they are still not struggling, kicking, etc.
Well I bet he wont shoplift again.
He wasn’t shoplifting, he was just making an undocumented purchase.