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Dishwasher and Washer Design Victim of EPA and Dept of Energy Stupidity.
0729.16 | chickensoup

Posted on 07/29/2016 2:58:20 PM PDT by Chickensoup

My dishwasher and my washer are victims of the EPA and the DOE.

I need the dishwasher to let in more water to wash correctly

I need the washer to have a higher level in the tub, in order to meet guidelines


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KEYWORDS: appliance; dishwasher; epaoutofcontrol; frontloader; frontloadertip; washer
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My dishwasher and my washer are victims of the EPA and the DOE.

I need the dishwasher to let in more water to wash correctly

I need the washer to have a higher level in the tub, in order to meet guidelines

1 posted on 07/29/2016 2:58:20 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

“No water for you!!”


2 posted on 07/29/2016 3:00:10 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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Are you saying you expect your washer and dishwasher to actually get things clean? Why should Americans have clean things when millions around the world don't even have potable water??? (/sarc)
3 posted on 07/29/2016 3:00:49 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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4 posted on 07/29/2016 3:01:36 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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I know what you mean. My new Maytag dishwasher cleans very poorly. The old one left the glasses sparkling clean. This one, they’re a bit cloudy and scummy. The new one says it uses only two gallons of water. So what if it doesn’t clean the dishes? Oh, and it takes almost THREE hours to do a poor job.

Thank you EPA.


5 posted on 07/29/2016 3:01:52 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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My dishwasher is actually pretty good, about a year old: KitchenAid.... my washer is a front loading Sears... that was a mistake. I was familiar with European front loading machines which clean clothes like nothing I’d seen. I now know the difference... the Euro machines HEAT the water to a higher temp. My grandmother can set hers to boil for whites, they come out spotless. My American version that’s energy efficient... meh and you’re right, they need more water. Online I found some tips... people are pouring extra water into the pre wash container in the drawer where you put detergent.


6 posted on 07/29/2016 3:02:16 PM PDT by Katya
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I recently pulled a 40 yr old KitchenAid roll around d/w that had been sitting in the basement for 35 years to convert to under the counter to replace the d/w that came with the house. Works GREAT - only takes an hour, gets dishes clean, only uses hot water. It’s a miracle...


7 posted on 07/29/2016 3:04:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Same here. The old ones worked great. The new ones suck....and cost twice as much.


8 posted on 07/29/2016 3:04:13 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Chickensoup
Your dishwasher detergent probably doesn't have phosphates in it either because of the EPA.

To help get the "spots" off your dishes and glasses, pick-up some Trisodium Phosphate, TSP, at your local hardware store and add a TBSP per load.

9 posted on 07/29/2016 3:05:23 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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Then there are the low flow toilets. You have to flush them twice to get them to work.

Older toilets only need one flush.


10 posted on 07/29/2016 3:05:36 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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There are boatloads of stuff the EPA messed up.

They demanded 410A refrigerant as more “energy efficient” but it eats compressors like there’s no tomorrow causing constant leakage. Just how is that more “environment friendly?”

Bring back the old R22 refrigerant that worked like a CHARM.

Then there’s those stupid gas tanks where I spill more gas than the old gas tanks.

Then there’s catalytic convertors where here in the Peoples Republic of NY, you have to shell out 1K to replace it in a Chevy Express Van to be “50 state compliant” (brought to you by Kalifornia and the PRofNY)


11 posted on 07/29/2016 3:06:09 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Auntie Mame

See post #9.


12 posted on 07/29/2016 3:06:12 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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My wife figured it out: buy a 5 pound weight and place it on top after you load it so that the sensors detect more weight; thus causing it to add more water— stick it to the man.


13 posted on 07/29/2016 3:06:31 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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What is your problem? Don’t you know that once water is used, it is gone forever? It isn’t as though it can be recycled...

< / sarcasm >


14 posted on 07/29/2016 3:06:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: jdsteel

Sounds like there might be a great new business opportunity in retrofitting these crap new dishwashers.

I might have to look into it.


15 posted on 07/29/2016 3:06:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Muslims kill people because they're sick of being called violent! They're violent over Islamophobia!)
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To: PROCON

TSP is banned in New York. So is the “good” pesticide to kill mosquitos called “Suspend SC”

Have I mentioned my daughter and son-in-law live in Southern PA? wink wink


16 posted on 07/29/2016 3:07:42 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Chickensoup

A big issue is that a lot of them now don’t have a heated dry cycle. When you buy check inside to see if it actually has a heating element.


17 posted on 07/29/2016 3:07:49 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Chickensoup

To say nothing of lawn mowers that don’t like gasoline and don’t work unless you rebuild the carb every time you need it. a (Do NOT buy a Troy Bilt from Lowes).


18 posted on 07/29/2016 3:08:19 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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I am wondering whether there are people or shops who can do go around for the current machines.

Or find me a good old one that is refurbished.


19 posted on 07/29/2016 3:08:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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The water levels are fixable if you are intrpid enough.

There are floats inside that determine the water levels... Find them and adjust tgem


20 posted on 07/29/2016 3:08:48 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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