Posted on 07/10/2016 7:39:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber
It’s happened to most of us – some more than others. You’re driving down the highway or a backroad or maybe you roll through a stop sign one too many times, and here they come. The flashing lights, the piercing sound of the siren. It’s nerve-racking, to say the least.
With so much tension surrounding recent officer-involved shootings, I feel a duty to open the discussion on what to do when legal gun owners either open or concealed carrying are pulled over by police.
No matter what state you find yourself in, national firearms expert and trainer Massad Ayoob explains there is a universal way to inform the officer you’re carrying: hand your concealed carry permit over with your drivers license.
(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...
I was once stopped and was told if I left my gun where it was he would do likewise.
I got pulled over for no taillight (fishing expedition) last week. When the cop asked for ID I said, “It’s in my left jacket pocket. May I retrieve it?” and waited for his permission. Then I said, “The registration is in the glove compartment, May I retrieve it?” and again waited for permission before I moved a muscle.
He gave me a verbal warning and let me go.
While I do not have a CCW those actions are exactly what I do anytime I get pulled over.
Always let em see my hands. Always tell em where I am reaching and why. Always ask for permission
It just goes smoother
Ayoob, the lying idiot, once again giving advice he knows nothing about. Ayoobis NOT a lawyer and fails to give proper advice.
For instance, he fails to mention that only in SOME States is notifying a cop of your concealed carrier status required. He also fails to state that some cops HATE being told you have a gun as it makes them nervous.
In Colorado, there is no requirement to notify and cops don’t want you to. Saying, “Hey, I have a gun” is often interpreted as a threat and not an informative statement.
Don’t ever follow what Ayoob says as he is often wrong. Heck, he started his career as an “expert” by lying about the Florida FBI shootout. I don’t think he’s ever been anything but a very small town cop with a big mouth.
I actually have and you obviously have not here in Georgia.
My courses were taught by police officers, BTW.
If you’re a criminal, you lie and if all else fails you shoot the cop.
Ayoob makes his living posting and writing articles. He doesn’t and cannot keep abreast of all the fineries of every state law.
I think something like this was posted at FR a few years ago. Someone responded that the best thing to do when pulled over when carrying is to jump out of the car waving your hands wildly and shouting “I got a gun! I got a gun!” :)
I got pulled over because the officer saw I was driving a car with an out of state dealer plate. He thought it might be stolen. I kept my hands on the wheel and immediately informed him that there was a gun in the jacket on the passenger seat and that I had a CCW. He checked my CCW card and ran my drivers license. I told him I had the dealer phone # in my phone if he wanted to call them. He told me everything seemed legit and sent me on my way.
When I got home I looked up the Sheriff’s department website and sent them an email naming the deputy and complimenting them one his professionalism and courtesy. I got a very nice one back thanking me and stating that LEO’s very seldom got feedback like this and they were valuable for promotion. I would suggest anyone with a similar interaction with law in for cement do the same.
“IN Georgia, if you are a CCW carrier, you are NOT legally required to state such”
This is correct. Personally I would hand the cop my license and CC license together and let him decided what he wants to ask about it. Just to avoid problems.
Mr. GG2 got pulled over for a taillight out last year and he handed both licenses over. The cop asked him if he was carrying and he said yes on his strong side with 2 mags on his weak side. He told the cop he had an XDM. Then the cop asked if he had any other weapons and Mr. GG2 said a Mossberg 500 tactical on the back seat and a stubby in the sidepocket of the driver’s door. The cop said “whoa!” and started laughing. Asked if they were all loaded and Mr. GG2 said if they weren’t they would just be fancy clubs. They both laughed, the cop went and ran the plates and then told Mr. GG2 to get the taillight fixed and have a good day.
Your demeanor has a great deal to do with interacting with law enforcement.
You make your comment living in a state where laws are nowhere near to those of Georgia’s. Condemn at your leisure but the leisure is devoid of accuracy.
My CCW classes here in NC are taught by NC law enforcement sheriff’s department officers.
“Ayoob makes his living posting and writing articles. He doesn’t and cannot keep abreast of all the fineries of every state law.”
Then he needs to shut up and stop writing about them.
I don’t carry or have a permit, but was always told to put both hands on the wheel and leave them there. I’m NOT going to fumble around for ANYTHING before the officer approaches. How does he know I’m into the glove compartment/purse/pocket for my license and registration and not a gun? He doesn’t!!
The couple of times I’ve been pulled over and was asked for the items, I told the officer where they were located before reaching. In one case my purse (with license) was in the back seat where I couldn’t reach. Told the officer and asked if he wanted me to get out and get it or if he wanted to open the door and get it for me.
My personal opinion, when pulled over, the officer is in charge. Being an ass won’t help the situation, and whether the officer is right or wrong, could get me killed. My goal is to sleep in my bed at night.
You are correct. I never said in my statement to be an asshole about the reply. It was also meant to convey to the officer that there was no harm here for him.. I am not an asshole by nature and I don’t project that. BUT I DO KNOW MY RIGHTS, BY DAMN.
He knows a lot about guns; I’ll give him that. But he damned sure doesn’t know everything.
“law in for cement”
I guess auto correct has a sense of humor. That sounds like how the Mafia enforces their laws!
I will not hold my hands out the window. I am their boss, you know the tax payer. If they want to arrest criminal, the cops know who and where they are. Most Traffic stops are revenue enhancers period. Cops need to refocus on the protect and serve. Not seize and tax.
In my 50 years of driving I have been stopped for moving violations maybe a dozen times. I have received 2 tickets. I deserved both. All the other times, though I was guilty, I received either written or verbal warnings. Most of these stops were by state troopers. The two I got tickets for were both small town cops. But even then they were polite and professional.
Cops are human and make mistakes and common sense on your part goes a long way in reducing those.
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